--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Peter > > Sutphen > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > CC is "baby" awakening. Cessation of > > identification of > > > consciousness with mind. End of "I" and "me". > > > > > > "Cessation of identification of consciousness with > > the mind" but still > > an awareness that is confined to the body > > In CC awareness is aware of itself as "unbounded". > This unboundedness is not limited by anything. You do > not experience unboundedness bound by or in the body. > What "you" are is neither in the body nor out of the > body. There is simply pure consciousness and then > everything else: a perfect duality of Self/Not-Self. > > > in that > > seeing is done > > through a particular set of eyes, hearing through a > > particular set of > > ears etc.. > > Absolutely! Seeing, hearing, etc. are all functions of > the mind/body which is space and time limited. > > > > Still bound to the body > > No bondage to anything; no relationship to anything
I disagree here because until consciousness can see out of every eye then it is bound to a set of eyes, and that is relationship and bondage. I am not saying that eventually that freeing of awareness does not occur but I am saying that simply ceasing to identify with the personallity does not immediately dissolve that Karmic knot of consciousness known as the individual. Until all those Karmic knots are untied through body bound lives in the relative the individual rexists no matter how enlightened it is. You reap what you have sown until you stop sowing more seeds and all the old ones have been harvested in some way. > > but no longer > > identifying as the > > personallity. > > Agree. There is no identification with anything of the > body/mind. A "you" is created with identification. > > > There seems to still be individuality > > though. > > "...seems to be..." is the key phrase here. Again CC > understood in the context of waking state creates all > sorts of ontological problems because in waking state > consciousness is confounded with "I". So when you talk > about "I" disappearing everyone thinks that > consciousness blinks out. It most assuredly does not. > "I" is a very, very subtle mind/body thought that has > no more substantiality than any other thought. "I" is > a falsehood created through the > identification/projection of consciousness in > body/mind. That I" people walk around with in waking > state DOES NOT EXIST. It is a profound delusion. It > has no more reality than the thought that you are a > big chicken or a flounder. I understand that you do not mean that consciousness blinks out. >You are simply Primordial, > Infinite Consciousness, Pure Shiva....boy, that's fun > to say! Yes it sure is simple to say. Rick CArlstrom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
