--- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Jeff Fischer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > >  Having said that, for you to condemn all western medicine is 
> > absurd. The elimination of 
> > > smallpox, polio (almost) and the reduction of many other horrific 
> > diseases seems to me to 
> > > be a crowning achievement of that terrible school of medicine you 
> > seem to hate. How 
> > > about those terrible antibiotics? How many millions did they save?? 
> > Those saved by 
> > > penicillin and better drugs don't walk around with a sign that says 
> > I would be dead from 
> > > TB or just a tooth abscess if it was not for ......mycin.
> > 
> > Easy, One.  Sorry I got you so stirred up.  I don't condemn all of 
> > western medicine and the examples you give above are good ones.  But 
> > this country is too dependent on drugs to "handle" every little thing.
> > Let's handle why people get ill or look for spiritual/psychosomatic 
> > causes before we dive for the medicine cabinet. 
> >  
> > 
> > > As far as psychotropic medicines go they do not work for everyone. 
> > They can have terrible 
> > > results for some people. They can also bring people back from the 
> > horrors of depression 
> > > and psychosis. I have seen someone brought back from psychotic 
> > depression by Zoloft. 
> > 
> > I got it.  From my experience the long term "results" of these drugs 
> > are not good.  I've posted my anecdotal experiences over the last 5 
> > years previously.  
> 
> As I remember, your experience is drawn from a population in which
> people who are depressed and have not found relief with SSRI's or
> other "supplements" and are seeking (at the Scient ology Center) some
> alternative solutions. Do you seriously extrapolate your sample from
> this self-sampling population to be representative of society as a
> whole? It seems that drawing rom your population you would find, um,
> lets see: people who are depressed and have not found relief with
> SSRI's or other "supplements" and are seeking some alternative solutions. 
> 
> 
> > My bottom line is this:  there is too much drug 
> > use in this country.  
> 
> Based on real statistical studies? Or on your highly biased (used as a
> technical term) extrapolation discussed above?
> 
> 
> > If a non drug approach works, why not try that 
> > first?  
> 
> Sure. But lots of people have tried lots of things and don't find
> relief until they try SSRI's. By 'a non-drug appraach", i am guessing
> you don't really mean exercise, or counseling or herbs, or diet, or
> volunteer work, or more sleep, etc. but rather your solution of
> choice: Scientology. If you are suggesting that all people should try
> scientology before SSRI's I find that amusing.
> 
> 
> I ask you - Does anyone NOT know someone who is on an anti 
> > depressant?  It's an epidemic 
> 
> I fail to see your logic here. I could in parallel fashion say "Does
> anyone NOT know someone who wears blue jeans occaisionally?!" Its an
> epidemic! We Must do something. And by the way, I have just the thing"
> 
> Hidden in rhetoric appears (perhaps) to be the same slanted "steering"
> many of us have done in the past -- been there, done that -- but I
> like free and open non-agenda driven inquiry better now, thanks.

Every assumption you have made concerning me is incorrect or just incoherent. 
What 
makes you think I have anything to do with scientology? In any case I will just 
stick to 
incoherent.




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