--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unc:Continuing the discussion (and I really see it as adiscussion, not an argument or an attempt to convinceanyone of anything), IS suppression the same as simplyshifting one's attention?Think TM. When you become aware that you are on otherthoughts and effortlessly come back to the mantra, areyou "suppressing" those thoughts?
Irmeli:I didn't claim suppression is happening that situation. I was discussing the situation were you indulge in the positive emotions compassion and love. That can pretty easily lead to suppression of other emotions. I interpret that kind of approach being dualistic. That is not my path. It is has not even been possible for me after the powerful awakening experience I had at the age 16. Unc:We must agree to disagree on this. I've already statedmy view, that there is an infinite supply of ALL emotionsavailable to ALL people at ALL times. Nothing either addsto or subtracts from the supply of "available emotions." Irmeli:I'm here talking about emotional states, we all have, and many of which we are not aware of. They are suppressed. An emotional state has too sides to it like a coin. One is mental and the other is physical. Suppressed emotions often create in the long run not only mental but also physical illnesses. And these emotional states can gradually be exposed and transformed or healed. I do it by focusing my attention on where the emotion is located physically in body. I hold the physical and mental parts together and infuse this package by bliss. Many interesting things can happen then. The most important being the gradual improvement of health. If I work with fear, I shift my attention away from the thoughts, what I might be afraid of, and pay attention on the physical counterpart of the emotion. And here I really know, what I'm talking about, because I have done this kind of work a lot. And I have had good reasons for why I've been doing it.I grew up in a dysfunctional family. My mother is mentally ill, and was physically very violent towards me. As an adolescent I had many problems: I was withdrawn, suffered from anxiety, was stuttering, my bearing was poor, I had mild scoliosis. Starting from early childhood I suffered pains during the nights in my hands and feet. When I grew older, the pain got worse. At age 20 I was diagnosed with a progressive muscular disease. I had mild pathological changes in my muscles. Later that disease was found to be genetically inherited. These reasons have drawn me to work intensely with my energies = suppressed emotions. This work included meditation in a way where a lot of attention was paid on the physical sensations simply because their were many uncomfortable sensations in my body. I have not used pain killers. Later I also started to use a powerful breathing technique to better to connect to the emotions. I have also gone through eight years of psychoanalytical psychotherapy. And how am I nowadays? I'm 54 years old. I'm not withdrawn, no anxiety, outgoing, and have many hobbies. My energy flows. The scoliosis has gone, my bearing is good. I'm stuttering much less. The muscular disease is not completely healed. But I'm capable of doing 3 times a week 1,5 ?2 hours rather heavy astanga yoga exercise. In addition to that I swim, and cycle. I experience very little pain or discomfort in my body. The energy just flows. To get to this I have done a lot of transformative work with the emotions, especially with fear, but also with fury, anger and sorrow. When I do this work I can clearly feel how the energy (emotion) transforms itself, and I enjoy that process very much. It is a slow work though. To transform even partly a certain fear structure inside the body is needed usually hours of work in deep meditative blissful state. But transformation is a fact. Irmeli To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
