--- shanti2218411 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --It would be helpful in these discussions for there
> to be 
>    a common definition for terms being used
> eg"real".When this word is 
>    it may mean something very different from one
> person to another.
>    So for me the statement "the ego is not real" is
> an absurd 
>    statement thats because of how I define
> "real".For someone using a 
>    different definition this statement may make
> perfrct sense.Kevin

The ego is not real from the "perspective" of CC.
However it is real in waking state. Real meaning that
it is experienced or a phenomenological reality. There
is no individuality experienced in CC. There is a very
clear individuality in waking state. 


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>  [email protected], anonymousff
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> > There is a difference between speaking about ego,
> I, Self etc. as if 
> > these were real objects that could be pointed to
> meaningfully in an 
> > abstract discussion, and speaking about one's
> "sense of self". A sense 
> > of self is an experience, not an idea. By all
> appearances, it is a 
> > very common experience, and the absence of it is
> not at all a common 
> > experience. Does this have anything to do with
> what is "real"?
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> > --- In [email protected],
> "marekreavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > "The ego(self) is as real as the 'it' in 'It's
> raining.'"
> > >      -- paraphrase from something posted last
> year on FFL  
> > > No it at all. Just raining.
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