On Aug 31, 2008, at 2:20 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

> What I'm wondering is whether abandonment -- ignoring
> them completely -- is the best thing that we could
> possibly do for them? What happens in a clinical set-
> ting when you just basically IGNORE someone with BPD?

The few people I knew who actually ended up being Borderlines all  
followed a similar pattern:

Above average intelligence, successful working for themselves or "in  
charge" and with a certain amount of charisma. The problem was they'd  
draw you in with something interesting. They'd draw you in real close,  
revealing intimate details, etc. and you get to be close very  
quickly....then they blast you with their rage when you get close.  
Since they see the world largely in black or white, you fall into the  
black side of things and are devalued and looked upon as if evil. It's  
all your fault!

> Do they get better, or do they get worse?

It's said that most do as they get older, but the same patterns remain  
and it is quite obviously a painful pattern to be stuck in. Esp. if  
they live with someone.

It's said, that those with BPD and some other personality disorders,  
although they're not fatal or ready to be institutionalized, those  
around them feel like dying as it's so difficult to have to live with.

> So far, it would seem that our two BPD role models have
> gotten much, much worse, and are locked into acting out
> their feelings of "I've got to do more to get people to
> focus on me and to take me seriously" at an increased
> level?

That's the "drawing in" part. Once you get close, expect to be blasted.

> In a clinical setting, does IGNORING the BPD sufferer's
> need for attention actually help them to get over this
> need and learn to develop relationships that are not
> based on picking fights, or does it push them to get
> worse, and finally implode?

In general BPD's don't do real well in a clinical setting as they tend  
to just eat up staff and spit them out again. BPD's are experts at  
splitting people and turning people against one another. One things  
for sure, a BPD person who show you how close knit your staff is.


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