--- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "marekreavis" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Comment below:
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], anonymousff 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > **SNIP**
> > > > 
> > > > > By what "definition"? This presumes self to begin with. In 
> > other 
> > > > > words, someone experiencing a sense of self has uttered 
these 
> > words. 
> > > > > Contrast this with comments from Suzanne Segal such as: The 
> > > > mothering 
> > > > > function is happening. It is happening better than if there 
> > were a 
> > > > > mother. But there is no mother. She was referring to 
herself in 
> > > > > relation to her child. From an outsider's 
perspective, "she" 
> > was 
> > > > > obviously present, but she experienced no sense of a self.
> > > > 
> > > > **END**
> > > > 
> > > > "The ego(self) is as real as the 'it' in 'It's raining.'"
> > > >      -- paraphrase from something posted last year on FFL  
> > > > No it at all. Just raining.
> > > 
> > > Objectifying principle? Projection? The meaning of 'pragya-
parad' -
> > > creating an object where there is no such thing - the mistake 
of the
> > > intellect. 
> > > 
> > 
> > The mistakeof the intellect is in seeing a distinction where 
there 
> > isn't one. Objects have every bit as much reality as 
consciousness.
> 
> Yes. It (the it in it's raining) depends on ones point of view. We
> were using the other perspective. I am that, thou art that, all this
> is that, that alone is. Progression in point of view. If caught in 
the
> objective the other perspective may be more useful. What was the 
yoga
> sutra quoted the other day about negative thought? Entertain the 
exact
> opposite.

What is the opposite of a thought?






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