--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > [...]
> > > > This is pretty much how any sucessful entrepreneur works.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Actually, a successful entrepreneur's #1 tenet is:
> > > 
> > > If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
> > > 
> > > TM works...and the way it was marketed to the world back in the 
> > > mid '70s worked...then someone messed with that successful 
> formula 
> > > by:
> > > 
> > > 1) fraudulently promoting the flying technique;
> > > 
> > 
> > Not fraudulently in MMY's eyes;
> 
> 
> ...you mean publishing photographs of hoppers in the apex of the 
> hopping parabola isn't fraudulent?
> 
> I disagree...
> 

They're still practicing what he belives leads to the ability to 
float. 

> 
> > 
> > > 2) messing unethically with scientific data;
> > > 
> > 
> > A serious accusation. what data?
> 
> 1) Not publishing "negative" results on TM and reinterpreting data 
> and studies done by others and publishing those reinterpretations.
> 

Never heard of the second, and the "file-drawer phenomenon" is well-
known enough to have its own term in the scientific literature and 
isn't limited to True Believers in the religious sense. Everyone does 
it or is tempted to do it. Doesn't make it right, of course.


> 2) (not unethically but) putting gold paint on the scientific 
> documents...


??? That's a bound book. Do you think they do that with the journal 
publications?

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > > 3) starting political parties and enjoining them with the TMO;
> > > 
> > 
> > In the USA, they sorta kept within the boundries of the law...
> 
> 
> That's not what I am referring to.  I am referring to the fact that 
> the TMO -- an organisation with the stated purpose of promulgating 
> the TM program -- engaged in something that "took sides" and was, 
in 
> effect, a philosophy.  TM is not a philosophy nor a religion; it is 
> supposed to be for all regardless of religious or political  bent 
> and the organisation responsible for promulgating it should always 
> be neutral and NOT engage in anything partisan.  This the TMO did 
by 
> getting involved in politics which was, of course, a crass attempt 
> at getting publicity in order to "sell" TM and other TM ancillary 
> programs.  You know it, I know it, and Beth Littleford knows it.
> 


Um...

> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > > 4) selling soap and candy bars with the name/brand most 
> associated 
> > > with the TM program;
> > > 
> > 
> > Fund-raising efforts...
> 
> 
> ...sad that the organisation responsible for promulgating the most 
> important self-development technique ever (IMHO) stoops to such a 
> silly level...

Been an MAK user for years. My twice-yearl strep throat infections 
haven't come back since I started. I'm happy to donate to the cause 
in exchange for that.


> 
> 
> > 
> > > 5) generally making the TMO a cult.
> > 
> > Already the case, in most people's eyes, even by before the 
Sidhis 
> > were introduced...
> 
> 
> Oh, I certainly disagree with that.  The Sidhis were introduced 
> around 1976 and, for the first time, an organasation responsible 
for 
> spreading a self-development program was on its way to becoming 
> mainstream.  And the Sidhis themselves didn't blow it but the way 
> that one of the Sidhis -- the flying technique -- was introduced, 
> did.

Most press believe that the Sidhis were introduced AFTER initiations 
slowed down. This is my recollection as well. The TMO was getting 
less mainstream anyway, IMHO.





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