> > Rick, I agree, 3 weeks is too much.  Why not either 1 week
> > for all offenses, or one week for the first and then 2 weeks
> > thereafter?  The first way would be easiest for you, as you
> > wouldn't have to remember which "offense" the poster was
> > on.  Just a thought.
> >
> > I'm open to changing it. It's not hard for me to keep track 
> > of how many times people have gone over the limit. I just 
> > have a little note file in Outlook. I use the Outlook calendar 
> > to remind me when to restore someone's posting rights. I 
> > figured that as in the judicial system, chronic offenders 
> > need increasingly stronger deterrents.
> 
> Yeah, and we know how well that's worked out...

With all due respect, one aspect of the "stronger
deterrent" made all the difference in the world.
That was when overposting was made a "bannable
offense." Before that, a couple of the compulsive
posters who were the reason the posting limit was
created in the first place systematically tried
to abuse the system. It was only when they realized
that doing so would effectively cut off their drug
supply for a week that they stopped consciously
going over the limit.

I don't have an opinion on what the "ban time" 
should be. It should be long enough that those who
really miss posting when they aren't able to do it
start to REALLY miss it. 

Part of me agrees with Rick, that a series of 
escalating ban times would be more of a deterrent.
But another part of me realizes that at this point,
after all we've gone through over this issue, when
a regular here goes over the posting limit, they
are already *beyond* being deterred. They're stuck
in some compulsion, and have lost the *ability* to
monitor the number of their posts. How many times
they've posted this week just doesn't enter their
minds, because they've Just Gotta Post...they're
gone, thinking, "This thread or discussion or 
argument is too important and overshadowing to 
NOT post."

So I don't know what will work best. The same people
keep "fouling out," and the lengthening ban times
don't seem to actually keep them from fouling out.

Another forum I participate on sometimes had a situ-
ation in recent months when one person started not
only arguing incessantly and posting 10-20 times a 
day, but actually *abusing* people and saying he
wanted them dead. Many wanted to ban him outright,
but the moderator had another idea. He realized 
the guy's need to post, and just gave him his own
board. He can read our boards, but can't post on 
any of them. On his board, he can post, and other
people can read it and reply to him if they want.
He posts there every day, sometimes 5-10 times a 
day. No one has ever replied. 

But he's still crazy as a loon, so that didn't 
work, either. Beats the hell outa me what can
or should be done. I think the current system
here on FFL is working as well as it can, and
it has definitely improved the quality of life.



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