Interesting.  In the tradition I'm with now one can actually practice 
the mantra while in activity.  I was even told to try it while driving 
on the way home and though a little dubious did and found that my 
awareness was increased (but don't try this with the TM mantra).  

On my TTC many decided to go home and start businesses so they could  
become "financially independent" and spend more time around Maharishi.  
What they did was go home and start business, became yuppies and forgot 
all about TM. :)

Hence I often credit Maharishi with inventing yuppies. :0

- Bhairitu

Ingegerd wrote:

>I find it real peculiar that with the Householders Mantras, people 
>try to live in celebacy and be a recluse. It does not make sense to 
>me. If you meditate with a Householders Mantra, then you should be 
>very active in society, otherwise it will cause stress. In the 
>earlier days young people were practising Transcendental Meditation 
>for hours, dreaming of some life as a recluse in Himalayas. I knew 
>some of them - and some got very heavy mental problems and some did 
>suicide. We were not told the difference between Householders Mantras 
>and Mantras given for recluse life. The fact is that we were not told 
>anything at all. In 1962, I got the Mantra one day, and the teacher 
>checked the mantra the day after and then left. The next time I saw 
>her, was 20 years after. But most of us continued to meditate. That 
>was the days where we were allowed to practice long meditations - .I 
>once meditated in 12 hours - and came out quite dizzy, it was rather 
>dangerous. So in the beginning of the Movement it seems that MMY and 
>we were learning by doing. "The strongest survived."
>Ingegerd
>
>--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>Llundrub wrote:
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>>>Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
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>>>on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>> Yes, just OM! 
>>>
>>>
>>>So I wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a 
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>recluse while meditating with a longer mantra that contains OM might 
>not, as my friend suggested in the comment I posted here yesterday. 
>  
>
>>>I have a basic problem with these generalizations based on 
>>>      
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>heresay.  
>  
>
>>>For the basic reason that when I used to do TM at MIU I wanted to 
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>be a recluse and escape from all the cares of the world, and that was 
>using my non-OM mantra. So I can only imagine if what Maharishi says 
>about OM is true that I would have probably wanted to run screaming 
>from samsara. Moreover, my desires had no support at MIU and I was 
>miserable.   
>  
>
>>>So I ask, what is the real difference?  
>>>
>>>My experience, which I consider to be the only important thing in 
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>the world, confirms for me that the mantras which I have used since 
>TM, most of which contain OM as a part are extremely effective in 
>very vaulable ways, and they have only bettered my life.  
>  
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>>>When I used to do Mahalakshmi Sadhana I used two main mantras 
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>>>
>which together are:
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>>>Om shrim klim mahalakshmiyei namaha Om shrim hrim shrim kamala 
>>>      
>>>
>kamalalayei praseed praseed shrim hrim shrim om mahalakshmiyei 
>namaha.  Many Oms, I had much benefit from doing this 250,000 times. 
>  
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>>> 
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>><snip>
>>If you have a "guru mantra" then the amount of repetitions required 
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>to 
>  
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>>attain mantra siddhi are significantly reduced.  It's also 
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>interesting 
>  
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>>to note that the "secret" mantras are often much shorter. :)
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