--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well. I have been some time in the TMO, so most of what I know is > from MMY - and what he says about Householder Mantras and the balance > between silence and activity. So what you are saying is new for me > and interesting. > Ingegerd
MMY quite openly acknowledges that the idea of householder vs recluse mantras is unusual. It is THE central point of his commentary of the Gita. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Inge, there are no householder mantras and no recluse mantras. > These are TMO ideas. There are Shaiva mantras and Shakta mantras. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ingegerd > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:35 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques > > > > > > I find it real peculiar that with the Householders Mantras, people > > try to live in celebacy and be a recluse. It does not make sense to > > me. If you meditate with a Householders Mantra, then you should be > > very active in society, otherwise it will cause stress. In the > > earlier days young people were practising Transcendental Meditation > > for hours, dreaming of some life as a recluse in Himalayas. I knew > > some of them - and some got very heavy mental problems and some did > > suicide. We were not told the difference between Householders > Mantras > > and Mantras given for recluse life. The fact is that we were not > told > > anything at all. In 1962, I got the Mantra one day, and the teacher > > checked the mantra the day after and then left. The next time I saw > > her, was 20 years after. But most of us continued to meditate. That > > was the days where we were allowed to practice long meditations - > .I > > once meditated in 12 hours - and came out quite dizzy, it was > rather > > dangerous. So in the beginning of the Movement it seems that MMY > and > > we were learning by doing. "The strongest survived." > > Ingegerd > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Llundrub wrote: > > > > > > >Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques > > > > > > > > > > > >on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, just OM! > > > > > > > > > > > >So I wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a > > recluse while meditating with a longer mantra that contains OM > might > > not, as my friend suggested in the comment I posted here yesterday. > > > > > > > >I have a basic problem with these generalizations based on > > heresay. > > > > > > > >For the basic reason that when I used to do TM at MIU I wanted > to > > be a recluse and escape from all the cares of the world, and that > was > > using my non-OM mantra. So I can only imagine if what Maharishi > says > > about OM is true that I would have probably wanted to run screaming > > from samsara. Moreover, my desires had no support at MIU and I was > > miserable. > > > > > > > >So I ask, what is the real difference? > > > > > > > >My experience, which I consider to be the only important thing > in > > the world, confirms for me that the mantras which I have used since > > TM, most of which contain OM as a part are extremely effective in > > very vaulable ways, and they have only bettered my life. > > > > > > > >When I used to do Mahalakshmi Sadhana I used two main mantras > > which together are: > > > >Om shrim klim mahalakshmiyei namaha Om shrim hrim shrim kamala > > kamalalayei praseed praseed shrim hrim shrim om mahalakshmiyei > > namaha. Many Oms, I had much benefit from doing this 250,000 > times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <snip> > > > If you have a "guru mantra" then the amount of repetitions > required > > to > > > attain mantra siddhi are significantly reduced. It's also > > interesting > > > to note that the "secret" mantras are often much shorter. :) > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > ------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
