--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is a hatha yogic technique 
> where
> > you lift yourself up with your arms and then bounce on the butt, in
> > order to create a push on the lower chakras. Even though the 
> technique
> > is not identical, the effect may be similar.
> 
> Not sure about that.  Even people who never hop
> have reported a significant increase in clarity.

Well, as I always did hop, I can't compare. But there used to be a
marked difference between the hopping and from the rest of the
program, especially if that wasn't clear before. And there was always
a stress on people to hop in order to get on courses. 


> By the time I learned, it was common knowledge
> among TMers--at least in New York City--that it
> was hopping rather than flying.  

That was definitely different at my time. I learned the first Siddhis
at my TTC in August 1977 and got flying in February 1978. I was
actually disappointed that people weren't floating. When I saw the
first ones hopping I thought they were cheating. But I had the inner
sensation of floating right at the initiation into the flying sutra -
no hop though.





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