--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know what's sadder -- the story or the blasé > > manner in which it's told. > > Barry, fuck yourself! The story IS sad. Sorry that I don't possess > you ability to express myself in all the subtleties of the english > language, and I don't know what you are trying to put into my words.
Sorry from my side, too. I understand about the German-to- English thing. What I was reacting to was a general attitude taken so for granted (possibly not in you but in the people there in that hotel, in that place and time) that no one sees anything questionable about certain ways of looking at this sad, sad situation. For example: > > "...he got some mental problems and because of that, > > the Purusha board wanted to sent him away." Yeah, that's how a civilized "ideal society" reacts to someone developing mental problems, all right. Don't provide any real help for the person, send them away so that they aren't an embarrassment to the movement. > > "People with mental problems are usually put away > > from the higher storeys, because the administration > > was afraid people would jump out of the window. So > > they put him into a room at the basement." My grandmother also suffered mental problems, in the American South, during the 30s. Her husband, ashamed that anyone associated with his family might be "crazy," had her locked away in one of those snake-pit insane asylums for forty years, and told my mother and her brother that she had died. The idea again was to put the embarrassment out of sight, not to help the person in any way. It's the Sem story again. The people "in charge" are more concerned with tarnishing the image of the fantasy they live in than they are in any compassionate caring for someone who is having problems. And they find it difficult to conceive of the fact that anyone *in* such an "ideal society" *could* be having problems. So they stick the guy in a basement room full of old stinky mattresses "for his own good," until they can send him away and make him someone else's problem. I'm sorry, but compassion this is not. Caring this is not. > > "Officially it was only an accident..." Officially, it would have been deemed neglect, possibly criminal neglect, in some countries. > > "Stens death was sad, but I don't look down on him > > in any way." No comment. Just the fact that someone could even *conceive* of looking down on Sten for his actions says it all. I'm sorry...it may well be the foreign language thing, Michael, but this line made me want to puke. > Many people die of sad reasons. You are just putting things I > said out of context and try to cash in on your TM/cult trashing. > What's wrong in saying this you idiot? You anger me. Forget it. It isn't a question of putting TM down. It's a question of putting a particular cult mindset down. I've seen the same mindset in many organizations, including the Catholic Church (suppressing information about child abuse) and other spiritual organizations. It's just what happens when the myth becomes more important than the reality, when the idea that "we have a panacea that will make everyone in the world happy" becomes more important than noticing that every- one, even there at the center of things, ISN'T happy. It's the mindset of claiming, to the police and the world, that this incident was an "accident," rather than dealing with what it was. It's the absolute anti-enlightenment nature of the whole thing. Sorry, but it just *screams* to be noticed. And the way you presented the story, so blasé, as if it was an episode of bad taste by someone who embarrassed Maha- rishi by setting himself on fire, just fucking pissed me off, man. I wasn't meaning to be angry at you, and wasn't. I was angry at the sadness of it all. Still am. Think it through, man. If it had been you who had been unlucky enough to develop some mental problems and kill yourself, people would be talking about how they didn't really "blame you" for creating a commotion, too. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
