Thanks for your stories, Trin.  As you said, similar
to mine in some way, very different in others.  

Selected comments:
> > When the behavior or the doubts reached the point of
> > "excommunication," the apostates almost overnight 
> > became "ex."  
> 
> Certainly not over night. The special purge I described was a 
> one-time event, a very shocking one I must agree. 

Icky to the max.  

> It was ceratinly more of a shock tactics from the side of 
> Maharishi. He even phoned when we were in the middle of the 
> flying program to get it started. But in the end everybody got 
> rehabilitated. And in my own situation, I realize it was
> ultimately the right decission for me.

Certainly sounds like it to me.

> > They were forgotten; it was if they had 
> > never existed.  
> 
> Rubbish. many letters, phonecalls etc. A year after the whole 
> event, I got a letter from my Purusha friend saying that 
> Maharishi would need Purushas, and that I could come back, not 
> withstanding that I was with MM already for one year. I just 
> decided not to return.

That was your experience.  During my last year or so with
the TM movement, still a State Coordinator, I was living in
a small town with a few still active initiators and a few
who had been declared "off the program" and forced to leave
the movement.  When I would be out walking with the still-
active TM teachers, and they encountered one of the "OTP 
types," they would literally cross the street to avoid talk-
ing to them.  Shocked the hell outa me.

> > It was embarrassing to think about
> > them, because to think about them poked holes in the
> > oh-so-carefully-constructed myth, so no one ever did.
> > In retrospect, it was just the weirdest thing.
> 
> Rubbish.

You sound as if you had a fortunate experience.  My only
point is that not everyone did.  Some who left or who were
forced out wound up in a situation more like I described
above.
 
> > And it wasn't just TM.  Please don't interpret this
> > as a "dump on TM alone" rap.  I saw *exactly* the same
> > pattern in the Rama trip.  And I've encountered it in
> > other spiritual organizations since.
> 
> I understand that there was a tendency for this, it was certainly a
> sort of a dogma to 'not engage in negativity' And certain people
> ceratinly were like this. But mostly everbody was just human. 

And just trying to cope with living inside a big myth.

> So, really I don't share your feelings. With all the revelation 
> I have just given.

And that's just fine.  That's why I asked.  I was really
curious as to people's different experiences.  Still am.

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