on 6/21/05 4:54 AM, claudiouk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Maybe this has come up before in FFL, but if upon enlightenment there > is consciousness (transcendental) and relative experience, and the > consciousness is infinite value and experience point value, I find it > odd that the two remain correlated via the ONE body.
Enlightenment is the ability to embody all paradoxical realities. > > Take an actor having overall awareness (infinite value) and he acts > three characters in a play (point value). Speaking as each character > in turn he operates within the limitations their respective "egos" - > but as the only "reality" the actor knows exactly what these egos > perceive and can or cannot say or do. Whereas, returning to > Consciousness, in the case of someone claiming enlightenment, there > seems to be only knowledge of the one body and ego that existed prior > to enlightenment. > > Is such enlightenment still "relative" then, and is there another > more profound level to reach in which truly one would experience > everything as the Self, this Self being truly INTIMATELY cognissant > of the egos and bodies of ALL creatures? Because only THEN it becomes > possible to love one's neighbour as one's Self AND have the sense > that a wrong done to another is truly a wrong done to one's "self" as > well. Sounds like you're alluding to omniscience. I think we can know ourSelf as the Self in all beings and see all beings in the Self without actually perceiving through the senses of all beings. That would be a relative ability, and enlightenment is not defined by relative abilities. > > In other words, stage 1 enlightenment is the expansion of point to > infinity; stage 2, the linking back of infinity to ALL relative > points, enabling the original point to "know" all other points > intimately, directly.. Does this tally with any scripture, I wonder. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
