Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: infinity to PointS (was the relative)

[Llundrub]

Sounds like the sperm flow chart to me.       ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: infinity to PointS (was the relative) No one's been doing their asanas regularly! Very nice post. The flow of consciousness as overwhelming love to a point in the relative. The "stitching" of the relative into the Absolute. --- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---Also, in rising to GC the inner knower begins to > feel expanding > love, or whatever you want to call it; but a feeling > of flow from > infinity inside to any point outside. This relates > to omniscience in > that the flow of this inner field of awareness, > spontaneously, knows > or is drawn to the particular point of interest. > Really in any situation of lack; it is lack of love, > lack of > passion, and now, when pure consiousness is > established, and all ego > based fear dissolved, there's nothing left to do, > but "watch" the > absolute "move"... > > >  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > -Before enlightenment, the world we perceive is > "of, by and for > the > > ego. Everything is seen and translated in terms of > this point, > this > > sense of me(the ego). > > After enlightenment is acheived one steps out of > identifying with > > this point, this sense of me(the ego). > >   One is no longer indentified with a point, this > tiny sense of me > > (the ego), but becomes identified with the origin > of any point in > > pure awareness, the Absolute. > > One can become aware of any point,any side of any > issue; no longer > > guided by a single perspective(ego based), totally > limiting view... > > So, the next step is allowing the pure > consciousness to "flow > within > > itself to the point, then to the next point, all > point guided now, > > not by ego, but by pure intelligence. Any > "problem" is seen as > just > > energy, which needs balance and recieves balance > spontaneously, > from > > point to point. > > In other words, an enlightened person, detatched > perceives from > the > > state of being, and in that silence, brings forth > the opposite > > energy to perfectly balance, thereby always, > percieving the Unity, > > in diversity; as being established in pure > consiousness, silence, > > always provides the Unifying factor, always... > > > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Many thanks for all the responses, not sure how > to address them > > all.. > > > They helped me think more about the question and > hopefully some > > > resolution is taking place somewhere in my > brain.... > > > > > > 58385... Irmeli Mattsson > > > > > > > "I cannot understand how this kind of > theoretical, > intellectual > > > speculation can help a person to evolve... If > you have a rigid > > > preconceived idea, you are less open for the > > > unexpected, which a new stage will be. " > > > > > > MMY often emphasized the importance of > understanding along with > > > direct experience, for one's evolution. I agree > that "imitating" > a > > > state of consciousness from some cultural > transmission is > > pointless, > > > but theoretical discussions can hopefully reduce > confusion and > be > > > inspiring and motivating. I imagine that direct > experience would > > > override and automatically stretch any limiting > preconceptions. > > > > > > > "Every thought and every experience regardless > of how .. > > > transcendental it feels, when perceived in and > through a > physical > > > body and nervous system, is always in the > relative. We can only > > talk > > > about the absolute, we cannot experience it." > > > > > > In MMY's schema, this is the "point to infinity" > bit, only > you're > > > saying that any and all experience is relative. > But the Knower > is > > > Absolute so from the "infinity to point" > perspective why are we > > stuck > > > with the relative experience associated with > THIS point body and > > not > > > others, given that the Knower inhabits other > bodies > > simultaneously. > > > > > > 58396 ... Rory Goff > > > > > > >"Brahman" or Wholeness resides AS fully in the > "manifest, > > > relative" point as in the "unmanifest, absolute" > Ocean. No > > > difference. A natural progression from this > would seem to be the > > > realization that one's Wholeness is potentially > as free to be ANY > > > point-self as to be one's habitual point-self:" > > > > > > Yes Infinity (= Wholeness = Unmanifest/Absolute > = Self) is > > > omnipresent at every Point (= manifest, relative > = self). So why > > is > > > the consciosness/Knower remain linked to the > habitual point self > > if > > > it is free to be ANY point-self ? > > > > > > 58405...  jim_flanegin > > > > > > > "The Self is distinctly free from any sense of > personal > > > identification.It is perceived by the original > 'point' body, but > > is > > > not actually connected to it.....It is odd > because it feels like > > me, > > > but try as I might I can't locate the attachment > point, through > > > thought or the senses." > > > > > > Yes  identification dissolves when going from > point to infinity. > > > > > > > "Though I am unsure about the next step- how > the perception of > > the > > > Self begins to extend to everything else 'out > there'. > > Conceptually, > > > yes, but experientially, not yet constant." > > > > > > This infinity to pointS is the tricky bit. I > myself can't speak > > from > > > experience, but am interested in it conceptually > (as part of > some > > > understanding of the possibilities of higher > states of > > > consciousness). Not sure for instance how it > relates to "Unity". > > > > > > 58408 ... Llundrub > > > > > > > "This is the problem, identifying with the > body as if it's a > > point. > > > The body is infinite. The self is absolute, not > infinite. A > point > > of > > > identification is the absolute identifying with > some snapshot of > > the > > > infinite. There are no points. There are merely > snapshots." > > > > > > I like MMY's spacial schema "point to infinity" > = === message truncated ===             ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' 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