--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think there are any plants anywhere using coal that have zero > emissions. We should explore clean coal technology but right now it's > just a phrase, not a reality. There's cleaner coal than before but > not clean.
Do you agree with Barky Hussein that such plants should go out of business because of the prohibitively high carbon taxes he says he will impose on them? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "aztjbailey" <aztjbailey@> wrote: > > > > > > I suspect what RP is talking about when he mentions technology is the > > liquefaction of coal. Coal can be turned into a liquid. > > > > http://thefraserdomain.typepad.com/energy/2005/07/about_coal_liqu.html > > <http://thefraserdomain.typepad.com/energy/2005/07/about_coal_liqu.htm l> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lol...Idiot republicans ACTUALLY THINK this is bad for Obama ! > > > The > > > > coal industry is already doing what Obama suggested here. Even they > > > are > > > > moving into greener technologies with zero emmissions plants. Its > > > as if > > > > they are in lock step together in their vision for the future with > > > > Obama, and the people in those States are well aware of that. > > > > Its only idiots like you and the other republicans, that the coal > > > > industry has already left behind, are still part of the old school > > > > dustbin of history. > > > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > > > > I guess I'm an idiot along with RON PAUL, your hero! > > > > > > Ha! > > > > > > Here's what Paul has to say about coal: > > > > > > What role do you think coal should play in America's energy future? > > > "Coal is a source of energy, and it should be used, but it has to be > > > used without ever hurting anybody. I think we're smart enough to do > > > it. Technology is improving all the time. If oil goes to $150 a > > > barrel because we've bombed Iran, coal might be something that we can > > > become more independent with. I think technology is super, and we are > > > capable of knowing how to use coal without polluting other people's > > > property." > > > > > > Paul is also against a carbon tax, so what Obama says about coal is > > > in direct opposition to Paul's stance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "shempmcgurk" > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/68oyz4 <http://tinyurl.com/68oyz4> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hidden Audio: Obama Tells SF Chronicle He Will Bankrupt Coal > > > Industry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By P.J. Gladnick (Bio | Archive) > > > > > November 2, 2008 - 07:26 ET > > > > > > > > > > (Please read update about the San Francisco Chronicle neglecting > > > to > > > > > mention Obama's willingness to bankrupt the coal industry at > > > bottom > > > > > of this blog.) > > > > > Imagine if John McCain had whispered somewhere that he was > > > willing to > > > > > bankrupt a major industry? Would this declaration not immediately > > > be > > > > > front page news? Well, Barack Obama actually flat out told the San > > > > > Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) that he was willing to see the coal > > > > > industry go bankrupt in a January 17, 2008 interview. The result? > > > > > Nothing. This audio interview has been hidden from the > > > public...until > > > > > now. Here is the transcript of Obama's statement about bankrupting > > > > > the coal industry (emphasis mine): > > > > > > > > > > Let me sort of describe my overall policy. > > > > > > > > > > What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in > > > place > > > > > that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's > > > > > out there. > > > > > > > > > > I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade > > > > > system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases > > > > > emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a > > > market > > > > > in which whatever technologies are out there that are being > > > > > presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they > > > > > would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted > > > down > > > > > caps that are being placed, imposed every year. > > > > > > > > > > So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's > > > > > just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be > > > charged a > > > > > huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted. > > > > > > > > > > Story Continues Below Ad « > > > > > > > > > > That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in > > > > > solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches. > > > > > > > > > > The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some > > > > > coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the > > > > > table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if > > > > > technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. > > > > > > > > > > It's just that it will bankrupt them. > > > > > Amazing that this statement by Obama about bankrupting the coal > > > > > industry has been kept under wraps until this time. > > > > > > > > > > UPDATE: NewsBusters' Tom Blumer has found out that the San > > > Francisco > > > > > Chronicle story published on January 18 based upon this January 17 > > > > > interview did not include any mention of Obama's willingness to > > > > > bankrupt the coal industry which you can hear on the audio. You > > > can > > > > > read the story here when you scroll down to the "In His Own Words" > > > > > section. Way to cover up for The One, SF Chronicle! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >