--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  My
> > notes say: (translated from german): 'The quality of the stress
> > determines the quality of thought.' 
> > 
> > Then it gives the example I just had given, of the joy causing a
> > stress in the past, and how the mind picks up the feeling and
> > associates it with the coming of a friend. Whatever it associates it
> > with is not important, obviously, it's arbitrary.
> > 
> > My course was in July 1977, Avoriaz. 
> 
> I was at the same Avoriaz course and I remember it as you state here.
> Do you remember a German guy named Norbert from that course?  

Yes, Norbert Weiss from cologne. He was quite a character. He went to
International later, and did some Sidha-land activity in Macau. He was
quite close to MMY at one point, but was also frequently outgoing at
that time. When the Purusha project came along, he wanted to join it,
bt MMY explained to him that it wasn't necessary for him. He went back
to Cologne and then I lost contact.

> It's 
> the only German name I remember from the course, although I do 
> remember spending an evening with several Germans who were telling me 
> that Hitler (as this is not an "argument" I hope this won't degrade 
> my story) was very spiritual in the beginning - People coming up to 
> him and giving him flowers, etc.  

Yes this was Norbert.  He was a big fan of an initiator who imagined
himself having been  Ernst Röhm, chief of the SA who was executed by
Hitler later on.

> They were very forceful in there 
> arguments, but it was too much for me to buy.

Sure. He had all these weird theories. But he was very forceful, sort
of a leader type. We were friends and hanging out a lot together. We
were also at phase one together. We laughed a lot together. We also
had one TM teacher we both adored, who was essential for our initial
TM experience. He first was in Cologne and then went to Nuremberg
where I am from.

> > TM (like scientology) assumes that the stresses are located
> > physically. Thats not the same with the samskara theory. 
> 
> In Scientology, the "stresses" (engrams) are not located physically.
> When one "dramatizes" the earlier event, one will reexperience the 
> physical pain associated with it.  Got your head chopped in the 
> French Revolution (like my dear wife)?  Dramatization of extreme neck 
> discomfort until that incident is "run out."

I see, thank you.




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