--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:19 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> >>>> Not quite that simple :-) In the final stages it is possible to
> >>>> "transcend" for four hours at a time, effortlessly. One sits
> > down,
> >>>> decides how long they will meditate and finishes when they 
intend
> >>> to.
> >>>
> >>> And you have documentation of this?
> >>
> >> Well yes, the text themselves, but more important are good oral
> >> instructions.
> >
> > I meant proof that this is what happens...
> 
> Yeah besides being a long known and practiced phenomenon in many of 
the 
> eastern schools, there has been some scientific research going on 
with 
> this for quite some time. The Dalai Lama has been meeting with 
leading 
> scientists for years on subjects like these. As we discussed 
recently 
> there there is also a study going on where a group of (I believe) 
30 
> people who will practice this over a year in a boundaried retreat--
the 
> exception being is that they undergo PET scanning and other 
> neurological testing, etc. So it will essentially be a detailed 
study 
> under scientific conditions. If I am not mistaken the three month 
pilot 
> study is under way or about to happen.

I've yet to hear of any such study, sponsored by the Dali Lama or 
anyone else.

> 
> Did you get to see the EEG of Ken Wilber I posted a while back?

Yes I did. Do you want me to ask EEG experts to comment on what it 
shows?




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