--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:02 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Jun 25, 2005, at 8:20 PM, sparaig wrote:
> >>
> >>> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jun 25, 2005, at 4:06 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Vaj, reading over your words, you make TM sound so difficult,
> >>>>> arduous even, if done correctly. I initially understood it to
> > be a
> >>>>> stress release technique, and still do it as such. I had a job
> >>>>> recently where I awakened at 4:30am for a 60 mile commute. I
> > was
> >>>>> always exhausted on my return each day and religiously fell
> > asleep
> >>>>> during every evening meditation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Wasn't talking about TM but about a similar meditation practice
> > that
> >>>> goes about 5 stages beyond TM-style meditation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ah, I see. So in its beginning stages, its easy, but in the more
> >>> advanced stages, it gets difficult?
> >>
> >> Not quite that simple :-) In the final stages it is possible to
> >> "transcend" for four hours at a time, effortlessly. One sits 
down,
> >> decides how long they will meditate and finishes when they intend
> > to.
> >
> > sounds very blissful, more so than I can possibly imagine. But why
> > would you want to do that? What is the motivation, the benefit? 
That
> > I don't get.
> 
> Once one finally attains this there is rather dramatic shift in the 
> nervous system. Physical bliss and mental bliss do arise, but once 
that 
> rapture fades then total stability can arise. Even befor ethis 
though 
> one will have attained taming and pacification of the mind, this 
has a 
> great benefit to the environment, as Patanjali notes. We talked 
about 
> this before when we talked about Thurman's _Inner Revolution_.
> 
> A noticeable benefit will be that entire complexes of negative 
thought 
> and destructive emotion are simply gone. The emotional afflictions 
will 
> begin to dissolve. Meditation on the Clear light becomes much 
easier. 
> There would be a long list of benefits if you wanted to list such 
> things but really gaining the ability to pacify and tame the minds 
of 
> others is probably the finest thing.

Which ability you show quite amply.




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