--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences in > > > > > many cases... > > > > > > > > I completely understand... > > > > > > Explain it to unc... > > > > Uncle, Lawson is completely suspicious about his own personal > > experiences in many cases. > > Maybe, but I'm suspicious for my own reasons, not because > someone told me to be. :-) > > The bottom line here, guys, is that both of you
Why do you say both of you? I didn't make Lawsons point really. > rely on > the testimony and advice of people you consider "experts" > for how to live your daily lives, and how to achieve your > spiritual goals. You tend to follow the experts' instruc- > tions to the letter, Maybe you got a wrong impression there, at least with regard to me. I do very much what I find most conducive myself. E.g I have no fixed meditation time, no fixed way of meditating - meditation goes very much by itself. From what you have told here about yourself, I pbly do much less manipulation with regard to meditation than you do or anybody here does. > and when they pay off and you have > a "good experience," you give the credit to the expert, > or to formula he/she sells, or the God he/she represents. I am very grateful for having recieved certain transmissions, which had an unmistaken effect. But this has nothing to do with any instruction or following it. Its simply an unmistaken transference of experience. > Me, I just muddle through, make my own decisions, and > have really neat spiritual experiences anyway. But I also make my own decissions > Face it, > there is nothing more threatening to the person who > "does everything right" than the person who "does every- > thing wrong" and has the same kinds of experiences that > the do-it-right-ers have. I doubt we have the *same* experiences. We have different ones, so what. No there is nothing challenging about it, since I am not acting from the mind. What I do there is simply no choice in it, and if I would live alone, there would also be no choice in it. But if it makes you proud living in the urban spiritual jungle alone, so be it. > It gives rise to the heretical > idea that, in the world of spiritual practice, "formulas" > for realizing enlightenment may just be something to > distract the seeker while the realization unfolds itself > to itself, and that what you actually do on a daily basis > to cultivate that realization doesn't matter a bit. Not for me really. But then its hard for you to concieve of a spiritual trip with a mentor that is unlike the ones you know, where there are no clear-cut guidelines and instructions. A totally non-verbal relationship. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
