--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Vaj
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Jun 26, 2005, at 9:59 AM, authfriend wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Wow, I never heard that the absence of thoughts
> > > > > in TM indicates an absence of "progress."  Is
> > > > > that something MMY says that I've somehow
> > > managed
> > > > > to miss?
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah, whatever happened to the gap gets bigger and
> > > bigger?
> > > 
> > > Ask Barry; he's a former TM teacher.  Maybe
> > > that's what he taught his students.  Sure is
> > > news to me.
> > 
> > What in the hell is all this distorted TM "teaching"?
> > Are you guys that are spouting this TM teachers?
> > Because MMY never, ever mentioned this stuff in the
> > context of explaining experiences during meditation.
> > 
> yeah, I don't remember a word of it either, and that's after 
> hundreds of hours of tapes, reading his books, etc.

>From message 59068 from Barry (TurquoiseB):

"Having practiced both styles of meditation, I can
attest to the fact that using certain styles of focused
or concentrative meditation, one can pretty much enter
samadhi at will and have it last for twenty minutes,
an hour, or several hours, with no thoughts present.
For the dyed-in-the-wool TMer, convinced that the
absence of thoughts indicates an absence of 'progress,'
this might not be an admirable thing...."

Actually, this post from Barry (a former TM
teacher) was in response to a post of yours,
Jim.





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