--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > > > Shankara traditionally is said to have debated all the 
great 
> > > > > spiritual leaders/gurus of his time in order to prove 
their 
> > > > > understanding of enlightenment false (or something).
> > > > 
> > > > Explains a lot about the TM approach to other
> > > > forms of spiritual development, n'est-ce pas?  :-)
> > > 
> > > I'm sorry, I honestly am not sure what your point was.
> > 
> > My point is that there are many spiritual traditions
> > on the planet that would never even *conceive* of 
> > entering into a debate with another tradition to
> > "prove their understanding of enlightenment false"
> > (or, if the "something" was more along the lines of
> > "prove our understanding to be better," to do that).
> > 
> > Clearly, if the story you refer to is true, that
> > was not true for Shankara, and for his tradition.
> 
> I don't know if it is true or not, but I believe its supposed 
> to be how he drove them durned Buddhists out of India or 
> something...
> 
> Apparently there is a tradition of textual argument in the 
> Shankaracharya tradition. The various claimants for Jyotirmath 
> have challenged each other at some point or another using it.

So I reiterate my original point -- this explains a lot 
about the TM approach to other forms of spiritual devel-
opment, doesn't it?  The whole dogma that TM is "best,"
that other paths are "lesser," that other types of medi-
tation don't work as well as TM does, or even that they
don't work the way their practioners think they do, but
the way that Maharishi says they do (e.g., concentration).

My point is simply that such behavior would be unthinkable 
in some spiritual traditions; it would seem that in this one, 
it's just tradition.

Unc






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