--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 <no_re...@...> wrote: > > agreed-- really well said dr. pete. enlightenment is real, viable > and experienced-- just not by -thinking- > > raunchydog, i don't get your comments at all- care to clarify please? >
Just jiving Peter. It's an analogy that obviously failed. It's a stretch but my point was, the grasshopper identifies with the weeds in which he lives so much so that he smokes the "weed" and hallucinates his existence to be something "real." Sorry, I can't wrap my brain around it any further than that. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> > wrote: > > > > Excellent, Peter. It's exactly the map of the territory Maharishi > has > > been telling grasshopper, identifying for years with the weeds he's > > been smokin'. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> > wrote: > > > > > > Enlightenment is not what you think because: > > > > > > You can not get enlightened. > > > > > > A thought is necessarily bound by time and space and therefore > has > > nothing to do with enlightenment. > > > > > > You can not "model" enlightenment. > > > > > > So with those caveats..... > > > > > > In ignorance you are somebody. A psychological private self that > > relates to the world. > > > > > > Then you get 1st stage enlightenment and you are nobody. > Actually, > > no "you" to be or not to be. Consciousness becomes conscious of its > > own consciousness and withdraws identity with any space/time > > experience. No-Self. No localization of consciousness. Weird as > shit > > for the mind. "You" no longer exist, only consciousness within > which > > everything occurs. > > > > > > Then you get 2nd stage enlightenment Grasshopper. Now you are > > everybody. Consciousness awakens to its bound value of space and > time > > as simply consciousness. All moving within itself. From "here to > here > > through there" according to Maharishi. Those are good words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > > > > > > > From: Peter <drpetersutphen@> > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of > enlightenment > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 8:18 PM > > > > Enlightenment is not what you think. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, ruthsimplicity > > > > <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: ruthsimplicity <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of > > > > enlightenment > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:10 PM > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > > enlightened_dawn11 > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightenment is that state of consciousness in > > > > which > > > > > a person no > > > > > > longer identifies with, and gets lost in, the > > > > objects > > > > > of perception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This sounds like the "I don't care > > > > anymore" > > > > > definition of enlightenment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
