--- In [email protected], "BillyG." <wg...@...> wrote:
> The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant, > realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO. Let's see if I have this right. You are assuming that you have the ability to discern which of the thousands of ideas of gods that man has proposed is the real one? And happen to live in a period of history when this information is readily available to you rather than the beings that were worshiped before people passed their beliefs down in songs which could be put into books and then translated into a language you could understand? That you have the ability to understand this being's will? The creator and sustainer of the universe, that being's will? Your human mind can understand and decipher through the nuances of scripture and translations or through direct revelation, the mind of God? And that your birth language just happens to be able to convey through translations all the subtlety needed to understand the mind of God? Claiming to be his servant with enough wisdom to not only understand his will but to carry it out in this world? And to this preposterously grandiose list of claims you add that it is "IMHO", your HUMBLE opinion? I don't think you understand what the term "humble" means. The claim that you know what "living according to God's will" means or are even in a position to determine what that will is (or if the many concepts of god actually refer to something more real than Santa Claus) is the most un-humble claim I can conceive of. I don't buy religious claims that try to usurp the true meaning of humility. For me, the association of humility and religion can be summed up in the following phrase: "We don't know." > > --- In [email protected], "Marek Reavis" <reavismarek@> > wrote: > > > > Billy, to me one of the most powerful images in the Hindu tradition re > > the idea of the Divine is Ma Kali. All the elements that make up that > > image combine to portray the wonderful and terrifying profligacy of > > "Mother" nature. > > I think the image has to do with contrasting nature and spirit. Mother > Nature or Prakriti proclaims that we all live and die many, many > times. Change is the essential component of Mother Nature, only Spirit > is eternal, never changing and secure. > > > Reproduction in reckless abandon and the casual extermination of all > > that is born is expressed and encompassed in Kali's form. I don't > > remember Maharishi ever talking about Ma Kali, but I'd be interested > > in your sense and feelings re that form. > > In the Gita Krishna exhorts Arjuna to "stay away from my fearful world > of changefullness", I think this is the context of Kali. Embrace and > identify with the image of God within us and we loosen the grip of > Maya (nature). > > > I'm more of a living in the world sort of guy, but I understand and > > appreciate the more monastic ideal that I believe you are living to > > one degree or another, and I'd like to hear more from you on the > > subject. > > The ideal is to live according to God's will, as his servant, > realizing our total dependence upon him, this is wisdom, IMHO. > > > Thanks. > > > > Marek >
