--- In [email protected], "boo_lives" <boo_li...@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
wrote:
<snip>
> > > ("World domination." Hilarious.)
> > > 
> > > > Should we go through the criteria, one by one?
> > > > 
> > > > I'd really enjoy that. Let's do it!
> > > 
> > > Oh, yes, let's! Why don't we start with this:
> > > 
> > > "If you cannot find anyone who has all of these
> > > attributes, at least find someone who has more
> > > good qualities than defects."
> > 
> > Very few give any response to the posts by this
> > Buddhist fundamentalist Vaj. He is ignored yet
> > year after year he spends a lot of time here with
> > his foolish propaganda and downright lies. I 
> > suppose he must be retired to have so much time
> > on hand. Doen't he have better things to do,
> > walking dogs for example ? ;-)
> > 
> I find Vaj very interesting, at least it's usually
> info I've not come across before even if I don't
> agree completely.
> 
> What I actually don't get is why nabluss and the
> like post here. We've all been exposed to approved
> tmo doctrine for decades, we know all the perfect
> logic, spent 1000s of hours listening to mmy, even
> promoted it ourselves for years and years, but it
> doesn't work for us anymore and most of us here are
> looking to process our tmo involvement and freely
> explore alternative world views, or at least modify
> the approved doctrine to something that fits our 
> reality (or some reality).  
> 
> WHY THE NEED for tmo TBs to try to enforce official
> tmo thinking here?

I'm not a "tmo TB" by any stretch, although I
suspect you're including me here.

>From my perspective, it isn't at all a matter of
trying to "enforce" official TMO thinking; it
would be foolish in the extreme to make such an
attempt.

Often the "alternative world view" incorporates
an extremely uncharitable interpretation of why
the TMO has done or said something. In some of
those cases, there's a more positive
interpretation that's at least somewhat plausible.
Since we don't know for sure what the TMO was
thinking, it makes sense to me that both possible
interpretations be provided.

Plus which, there are a few people here whose
negative views of the TMO/MMY/TMers are 
consistently expressed in an unnecessarily
unpleasant, superior, demeaning, insulting tone.
In at least some cases, what we're responding to
is as much the tone as the specifics. My response
to Vaj that you quote above was one such case.

And then there are the flat-out factually 
inaccurate or grossly misleading criticisms.
Nobody sensible should want their alternative
worldview to be based on such statements.

And when one of the unpleasant people mentioned
above consistently comes out with factually
inaccurate or misleading criticisms, it's
awfully hard to resist thinking they're being
deliberately dishonest.

If you're dubious about what I just wrote, you
might want to take into account how many of
the criticisms made here we *don't* object to.
If you compare those we don't object to to those
we do object to, I think you'll probably find
that the latter mostly, if not all, tend to fall
into the above categories.

<snip>
> This site isn't filled with J.Knapp's who are
> out there as anti TM activists, we're just
> individuals generally with long "spiritual"
> histories working things out amongst ourselves

It's not "filled" with them, certainly, but there
are several who seem to be at least informal
anti-TM activists, who are here not to work things
out but simply to bash. I think it would be
extremely difficult to characterize Vaj as wanting
to work things out for himself. He's already
decided, and he wants to push anyone still on the
fence to decide the same way, while at the same 
time nastily putting down anyone who leans the 
other way. And he doesn't seem to me to have many
scruples as to how he accomplishes that, with
regard either to honesty or minimal tolerance for
disagreement.


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