he doesn't claim to be enlightened, and yet, let's you and all of his other followers refer to him as His Holiness? if he isn't especially holy, why allow himself to be called that?
--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote: > > > On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:44 AM, Robert wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > >> > >> From Becoming Enlightened by HH the 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso > >> (2009). > >> (snip) > > Dali has never claimed to be enlightened, and I don't believe he is. > > > That's true, he would never make that claim. > > He is a high level bodhisattva, so that would be (for comparisons > sake) well beyond the realization of a say, a jnani. He's a very > humble guy, so I seriously doubt you'd ever hear him making such > claims unless it was to make a teaching point, although advanced > yogis who spent a lot of time with him have commented on his state of > consciousness. And of course (allegedly) reincarnating many different > times, isn't exactly easy for the average person. ;-) > > In real saints, there's often a very neutral sense of presence. If > there's an energetic sense, bliss, etc. about a saint, it's typically > someone 'still in process' IME. > > HHDL has the ability to transmit the recognition of enlightenment to > his students so it is a worthwhile style of realization since the > transmission of pure vidya is said to be like carrying the Buddha in > the palm of your hand. I also know he's successfully taught many in > the various samadhis and done so successfully. >
