--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
> >>> This principle doesn't hold up all the way through the advanced  
> >>> techniques or the defunct Chopra technique. But in any case I've  
> >>> not met any TMer who could rightfully claim the kind of exposure  
> >>> to different meditaitons that would make this claim valid and that  
> >>> criticism goes doubly for Maharishi who according to his own  
> >>> reports was a company man.  But was have a few people here who  
> >>> seem to have gone further and found out that it was not a unique  
> >>> contribution.
> >>
> >> Huh. I've taken chopra's primoridal sound technique and several  
> >> advanced techniques
> >>
> >> about 4-5 of them, I think
> >>
> >>
> >> We seem to have different ideas about how things work.
> >>
> >>
> >> Lawson.
> >
> > At one stage you are directing the mantra. This is not like any  
> > other thought.  That was my point.
> >
> > I know all of these advanced techniques are on the web but I don't  
> > like to piss people off unnecessarily by being more specific. I  
> > remember how people into it feel about their secrets.  But I hope  
> > you get my point from that.
> 
> 
> Really, in terms of the technical description of how TM is practiced  
> in the initial technique--it's not truly like 'any other thought', as  
> one is enjoined to maintain mindfulness (or smriti to use the actual  
> technical term) both as the mantra first arises (waiting or  
> "monitoring" for the mantra to "appear") and one must be mindful to  
> return to the mantra--otherwise one would potentially end up never  
> returning to the mantra, but remain distracted for the entire session!  
> This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra repetition  
> where mantra continues continuously like a spontaneous thought  
> actually is ajapa-japa: no effort or smriti, just constant ongoing  
> awareness of mantra 24/7/365.
> 
> Technically the style of mantra repetition where one has to return to  
> the mantra still is called "faulty" or "defective" in Sanskrit since  
> one has to constantly re-engage the mantra as it is lost. It's one of  
> the lower levels of mantra practice.
>

 We seem to have different ideas about how things work.


Lawson


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