--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote: > > > On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:45 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > >>> At one stage you are directing the mantra. This is not like any > >>> other thought. That was my point. > >>> > >> > >> We seem to have different ideas about how things work > > > >>> I know all of these advanced techniques are on the web but I don't > >>> like to piss people off unnecessarily by being more specific. I > >>> remember how people into it feel about their secrets. But I hope > >>> you get my point from that. > >> > >> We seem to have different ideas about how things work > >> > >> But I'm not surprised, I've objected strongly to descriptions of > >> advanced techniques > >> that I have heard before. > > > > I don't really understand how many different ways there are to think > > of it. My point was that there seems to be a lot of leeway with the > > so called innocent practice and it still works. For example Indians > > who are using their Istideva's name transcend just fine despite all > > sorts or emotional connections with their mantra. Thinking your > > mantra from a body part, which would be exactly the kind of things > > TM teachers are taught to poo poo as not innocent and would be > > introducing effort, work just fine as well. And by the time we get > > to the expansion of awareness technique found in certain advanced > > techniques and the now defunct Age of Enlightenment technique, we > > have a practice that for all purposes is a straight up hypnotic > > inductions with all the trappings of a contrived moodmaking > > technique generated by imagination. But again, it is just fine from > > Maharishi. > > > I've learned a lot of variations on mantra concentration over the > years, from the TM "charm causes the mind to spontaneously > concentrate" idea to many other kinds. One of the problems I noticed > with very "slack" techniques like TM is that you can lose clarity if > you get used to allowing the mantra to be just this fuzzy "impulse". > It's too easy to fall into the defects (of mantra practice). It seems > to me the dogmas that surround TM mantra recitation has actually > hindered the practice. > > Conversely, finding a relaxed balance between too much attention and > not enough attention--and then continuously repeating mantra for a > half hour or so without losing attention of your repetition is quite > different. You can tell if you're losing focus because you start to > screw up on your repetition. You'll get the same changes in the > mantra, but awareness is much quicker to respond. The advantage is, > you get results from the mantra much quicker and your attentional > skills get honed very finely. >
I'm so happy for you. Sighs. L
