--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <geezerfr...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > > > > > <I bought a bunch of saris and that is all I wore, and still I felt out > > > of place.> > > > > > > <Snip> > > > > > > <He did not fit into our culture and he never asked anyone to fit into > > > his.> > > > > > > The reason you wore a sari was because of his expressed desire to the > > > ladies on that course. He shaped every nuance of our lives on that > > > course. There was no aspect of our lives that that he didn't comment on, > > > and we reacted to immediately. > > > > > > > Not true. I wore saris because I was in India. I never heard that Maharishi > > told anyone they HAD to wear a sari. The fact is, my western clothes were > > totally out of place. Compared to saris they were ugly as hell. I gladly > > traded my dark, monochromatic suit jackets, skits, blouses and heels for > > the amazing Technicolor designs of silk saris. I felt quite feminine in > > them, despite occasionally getting tangle foot. I thought it was really > > cool that a neat little stack of six saris, an entire wardrobe, took up > > only one small corner of my suitcase while my very bulky western clothes > > dominated the rest of the space. > > > > > Maharishi not only asked us to fit into Indian culture, he required it. > > > Every single thing he wanted was carried out by all of us down to what we > > > ate, what we wore, what we did every second of every day in India. > > > > > > > Yep. We were on the program, every minute of every day. That is what I > > signed on for. I wasn't drafted into the military. I joined. We were loyal > > soldiers on a mission of peace. No one held a gun to my head and told me to > > march. No one fired a shot. No one slogged through mud and blood and we ate > > quite well, Indian food of course. > > > > We were in India at a very crucial time in history. Fifty Americans held > > captive in Iran. The era of détente ended. Soviet troops had invaded > > Afghanistan; their military forces were within 300 miles of the Indian > > Ocean, close to the Straits of Hormuz, a waterway for most of the world's > > oil. When Carter made his state of the Union address, January 23, 1980 he > > said: > > > > "The Soviet Union is now attempting to consolidate a strategic position, > > therefore, that poses a grave threat to the free movement of Middle East > > oil We've increased and strengthened our naval presence in the Indian > > ocean, and we are now making arrangements for key naval and air facilities > > to be used by our forces in the region of northeast Africa and the Persian > > Gulf." > > > > The Carter Doctrine: http://www.answers.com/topic/carter-doctrine > > > > As you may recall, Maharishi was extremely concerned about the news of > > American ships blockading the Soviets in the Indian Ocean. Then one day, > > for no apparent reason, he never said exactly why, Maharishi had us > > reforming teams, make plans for travel visas, look at maps of India and > > plan how our teams would travel around the Indian coastline, teaching TM, I > > guess. So for a few days everyone went into hyper drive thinking about how > > they were going to get their travel arrangements organized on such short > > notice. Then nothing. Maharishi just dropped it. I felt like someone had > > just dumped me out of bed in the middle of a nice nap, just for the hell of > > it. A few days later, we got news the American ships had withdrawn the > > blockade. No one ever made a direct statement that we might had had > > anything to do with it. But I believe to this day that our attention on > > maps of India and thinking about India's coastline intently, prevented a > > serious confrontation between the Americans and the Soviets. > > > > > For you to say he never asked anyone to fit into his culture as an > > > insider, to a bunch of us who were there living and dying by every > > > statement and announcement from the guy each day of that course is > > > shocking to read. I am reminded not only about what a complete control > > > freak the guy was, but how willing we are were to fall on our own sword > > > for him rather than let the world know what absolute control he had over > > > our lives. > > > > > > > I didn't surrender to Maharishi's "control." I willingly embraced the > > experience of being with him. No one forced me to do anything. I was there > > because I loved him and felt I was doing what little I could for a noble > > purpose, world peace. > > > Uh-huh. You have the unmitigated hubris to believe that your "attention" to > maps of India and thoughts of India's coastline caused American military > ships to withdraw at the time. >
I report. You decide. > The "Maharishi Effect' in action right Raunch? See Curtis, this is why I > don't attempt much in the way of dialog with folks like this. I may as well > be talking to my pet gold fish. At the same time, I do feel genuine > compassion. > > You know whenever something rolls on the tube showing Christian evangelicals > speaking in tongues or going nuts in various ways... I watch, but I don't > laugh. I can't because I've been there. I know what it is to be so certain > that you are riding the EXTRA SPECIAL BUS that only your point of view is > right, valid and correct. Raunch epitomizes this viewpoint. > > Raunch, my advice to you is to buy Curtis' latest CD. Curtis....I don't know > how you do it man. >