--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <geezerfr...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > <I bought a bunch of saris and that is all I wore, and still I felt out 
> > > of place.>
> > > 
> > > <Snip>
> > > 
> > > <He did not fit into our culture and he never asked anyone to fit into 
> > > his.>
> > > 
> > > The reason you wore a sari was because of his expressed desire to the 
> > > ladies on that course.  He shaped every nuance of our lives on that 
> > > course. There was no aspect of our lives that that he didn't comment on, 
> > > and we reacted to immediately. 
> > > 
> > 
> > Not true. I wore saris because I was in India. I never heard that Maharishi 
> > told anyone they HAD to wear a sari. The fact is, my western clothes were 
> > totally out of place. Compared to saris they were ugly as hell. I gladly 
> > traded my dark, monochromatic suit jackets, skits, blouses and heels for 
> > the amazing Technicolor designs of silk saris. I felt quite feminine in 
> > them, despite occasionally getting tangle foot. I thought it was really 
> > cool that a neat little stack of six saris, an entire wardrobe, took up 
> > only one small corner of my suitcase while my very bulky western clothes 
> > dominated the rest of the space.   
> > 
> > > Maharishi not only asked us to fit into Indian culture, he required it.  
> > > Every single thing he wanted was carried out by all of us down to what we 
> > > ate, what we wore, what we did every second of every day in India.
> > > 
> > 
> > Yep. We were on the program, every minute of every day. That is what I 
> > signed on for. I wasn't drafted into the military. I joined. We were loyal 
> > soldiers on a mission of peace. No one held a gun to my head and told me to 
> > march. No one fired a shot. No one slogged through mud and blood and we ate 
> > quite well, Indian food of course. 
> > 
> > We were in India at a very crucial time in history. Fifty Americans held 
> > captive in Iran. The era of détente ended. Soviet troops had invaded 
> > Afghanistan; their military forces were within 300 miles of the Indian 
> > Ocean, close to the Straits of Hormuz, a waterway for most of the world's 
> > oil. When Carter made his state of the Union address, January 23, 1980 he 
> > said:
> > 
> > "The Soviet Union is now attempting to consolidate a strategic position, 
> > therefore, that poses a grave threat to the free movement of Middle East 
> > oil…We've increased and strengthened our naval presence in the Indian 
> > ocean, and we are now making arrangements for key naval and air facilities 
> > to be used by our forces in the region of northeast Africa and the Persian 
> > Gulf."
> > 
> > The Carter Doctrine: http://www.answers.com/topic/carter-doctrine 
> > 
> > As you may recall, Maharishi was extremely concerned about the news of 
> > American ships blockading the Soviets in the Indian Ocean. Then one day, 
> > for no apparent reason, he never said exactly why, Maharishi had us 
> > reforming teams, make plans for travel visas, look at maps of India and 
> > plan how our teams would travel around the Indian coastline, teaching TM, I 
> > guess. So for a few days everyone went into hyper drive thinking about how 
> > they were going to get their travel arrangements organized on such short 
> > notice. Then nothing. Maharishi just dropped it. I felt like someone had 
> > just dumped me out of bed in the middle of a nice nap, just for the hell of 
> > it. A few days later, we got news the American ships had withdrawn the 
> > blockade. No one ever made a direct statement that we might had had 
> > anything to do with it. But I believe to this day that our attention on 
> > maps of India and thinking about India's coastline intently, prevented a 
> > serious confrontation between the Americans and the Soviets. 
> > 
> > > For you to say he never asked anyone to fit into his culture as an 
> > > insider, to a bunch of us who were there living and dying by every 
> > > statement and announcement from the guy each day of that course is 
> > > shocking to read.  I am reminded not only about what a complete control 
> > > freak the guy was, but how willing we are were to fall on our own sword 
> > > for him rather than let the world know what absolute control he had over 
> > > our lives.
> > > 
> > 
> > I didn't surrender to Maharishi's "control." I willingly embraced the 
> > experience of being with him. No one forced me to do anything. I was there 
> > because I loved him and felt I was doing what little I could for a noble 
> > purpose, world peace.
> > 
> Uh-huh. You have the unmitigated hubris to believe that your "attention" to 
> maps of India and thoughts of India's coastline caused American military 
> ships to withdraw at the time.
> 

I report. You decide.

> The  "Maharishi Effect' in action right Raunch? See Curtis, this is why I 
> don't attempt much in the way of dialog with folks like this. I may as well 
> be talking to my pet gold fish. At the same time, I do feel genuine 
> compassion.
> 
> You know whenever something rolls on the tube showing Christian evangelicals 
> speaking in tongues or going nuts in various ways... I watch, but I don't 
> laugh. I can't because I've been there. I know what it is to be so certain 
> that you are riding the EXTRA SPECIAL BUS that only your point of view is 
> right,  valid and correct. Raunch epitomizes this viewpoint.
> 
> Raunch, my advice to you is to buy Curtis' latest CD. Curtis....I don't know 
> how you do it man.
>


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