--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <no_re...@...>
wrote:
>
For example, I have been told that my system is not "subtle" enough to
feel the effects of various things like east facing homes, gemstones,
and various supplements.  It isn't subtle because I do not meditate
regularly.


Well, that makes two of us. I live in an east facing home with south
facing toilets and I can't say whether or not I feel a positive
influence on either consciousness or BMs. Same goes for gemstones. Since
I can't prove a benefit one way or another, I guess east facing
homes and gemstones fall into the category of innocuous beliefs. No harm
no foul.



I'm not concerned I don't notice a difference.  So what? Will I
feel "it" some day? I don't even know what the hell
"it" is. "It" might be really cool or maybe ho-hum. In
any case "it" is not something I think about.



I feel for you sister, I would be really pissed if someone judged my
"level of consciousness" and said my "system wasn't
subtle enough" for not noticing ooga booga. On the other hand, if
someone said the same thing in jest, I would probably agree and laugh it
off. It all depends on the intent behind the words and the person's
respect for you. You may not feel the influence of a gemstone, but you
will certainly feel someone's intention to make you feel small,
inadequate or less than.  That's what it's all about, isn't
it? Judgment. It's judgment with a mean-spirited edge, a sharp barb,
a thrust of the knife turned for maximum pain. Who are these creepy
people in your life anyway? Let me at `em. By the way, I remember
Maharishi said we should not judge someone's level of consciousness
by his or her actions. So the next time someone gives you grief, say,
"Maharishi said…" Have some fun with them.

A couple of people have told me that they can, by directing their
intention, influence others, even influence the outcome of a card game
of all things.  And why not?  After all, if you believe meditating in a
group lowered crime, why wouldn't your own attention give you an Ace in
a game of cards? They make cognitive errors concerning "winning
streaks," not understanding the nature of random distributions include
winning streaks. Their losing streaks are explained away.
>


Random distribution is a good reason to stay away from casinos.
Eventually, the house always wins. However, I believe that we do have an
influence on others with our attention. For example, if I'm in a
grump, I'm not fit for human company. The fumes of Hades radiate
about me. If you dared to spend some time with me while I'm in a
foul mood, believe me you would feel "it." Have you ever met
someone and you instantly liked him or her? Of course, you have. Perhaps
it's the "good vibe" of the person you're feeling and
not anything they necessarily said or did that attracted you. Whether
mojo, juju or voodoo, even though science can't measure "it"
some folks claim they feel "it" and some claim they don't.
In either case, such a claim is in the innocuous belief category.

> So, the problem for me is that I want to respect your belief.  After
all, it cannot be disproved.


Exactly, so why not leave it right there as a big question mark, holding
in reserve the possibility that things unproven by science may be in the
future and even if never proven we can still hold open the possibility a
belief could be true. Until then it's an unsolved mystery.

But I have trouble respecting these kinds of beliefs.  Unsupported
beliefs have caused all sorts of trouble in the world.  Animals, from
bears to rhinos are killed and driven to near extinction because of
magical beliefs in the properties of a body part. Women are subjected to
a subservient role in many religions.   Criminals are convicted on
eyewitness testimony in the face of contrary evidence because of the
belief that what you see can't be wrong.  Some people would rather take
an unproven supplement than take a blood pressure pill that has been
used for years, studied extensively, and shown both safe and effective.
>

I understand your concern. I agree that unfounded beliefs can be
harmful. However, in all the years I have meditated, I cannot think of
one thing about it that has caused me harm. If someone feels TM has
caused him or her harm, that is his or her experience, not mine.
Further, I would say such difficulties are the exception and may or may
not have anything to do with TM.

> Separate and apart from your beliefs, I respect you Raunchy.  You have
tried to take the high road more and more often here, as you have in
this thread.   But I worry about this stuff.
>


Ruth, I've been saving a story for just the right occasion and I
think this is a good a time as any to tell it:



In 1976, Katherine Hepburn broke her ankle in the stage play "A
Matter of Gravity" but trooper that she was; she performed her role
as Mrs. Basil from a wheel chair for the entire run of the play, six
months. I happened to be in Chicago when she was performing at the
Blackstone for her pre-Broadway tryout. It is truly one of the most
memorable theater experiences I've had.



Mrs. Basil, an eccentric dowager, lived in only one room of her Oxford
mansion. She had a quiet existence until the arrival of her grandson,
Nicky, his conniving fiancé, three other friends and a new cook,
Dubois. Dubois was inept and disorganized. The audience occasionally
hears her off stage in the kitchen, shrieking and banging pot and pans.
Out of curiosity, one day Mrs. Basil peeked into the kitchen to see
about the racket. She discovered Dubois tethered to an anvil with a rope
tied around her waist, levitating on the kitchen ceiling. Startled by
Dubois' unique ability, the miracle confounds Mrs. Basil who begins
to question her lifelong belief that God does not exist.



Mrs. Basil decided to keep Dubois' levitating skills a secret from
her grandson. As the farce continues Nicky and his friends, become more
and more dismayed that Mrs. Basil would keep such an incompetent cook in
her employ. Finally, in Dubois' defense, Mrs. Basil says, "She
gives me something to believe in."



I loved that line. Faith and hope uplifted her spirit. This is exactly
how I feel about TM. It uplifts my spirit and gives me something to
believe. I hope and have faith that everyone wants something to believe.
Whether it is a belief the sun will shine tomorrow, or children will
pick flowers from our garden…it's all good.





Peace, Sister.









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