--- In [email protected], "Irmeli Mattsson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>  
> > It seems that awareness is necessary for thoughts to happen but 
> > thoughts are not necessary for awareness to happen. Awareness 
> > without thinking is still awareness of something, only there are 
no 
> > thoughts. Can't really think about it but I'm sure we have all 
> > experienced it.
> > 
> > Rick Carlstrom
> 
> ****
> 
> A few years ago I had a long lasting experience of just witnessing
> without any discernible thoughts as I had used to have. As this 
state
> had lasted for may be 3-4 hours, while I had been all the time 
doing
> my normal daily chores at home, I felt a suggestion to come from 
deep
> inside to go to cycling in the city to see if the state lasts. I 
went
> for a 15-20 minutes ride and it lasted.
> 
> Later I have analysed this experience and come to the following
> conclusion: Thoughts by words following each other in time actually
> were not there, but another form of more effective thinking that
> happens not by words and sentences. We all have this kind of 
thinking,
> but we observe only the grosser level thinking by words.
> I think this way also animals think or make sense of the world,
> although with the human brain capacity this kind of thinking can be
> much more cognitively advanced. 
> I think all my deeper insights and ideas have come this way. Also 
in
> my work in engineering.
> 
> But if you want to share these ideas with others I must find words 
to
> describe them.  This is usually the much more difficult part. 
Insights
> usually appear spontaneously in a blink of an eye. The laborious 
part
> is to find expressions in words, if I want to share my insights.
> 
> Irmeli

Very nicely said Irmeli.





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