Edg, Booyah!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_re...@...> wrote:
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> TurquoiseB wrote:
> > Living in Europe for the past 7+ years, it is often
> > difficult for me to "get" the levels of paranoia and
> > fear expressed by Americans in their writings, whether
> > in the media or on forums like this one.
>
> Glittering generality R Barry. All Americans are besmirched by his
> broad brush. He's THE scholar of such things, has read just about
> everything any American has ever written donchaknow, and take it from
> Mr. Expert: you can be assured that Americans can be easily ignored in
> general -- except the one American in Sitges of course.
>
> Miss not that his nano-heart shows not the least compassion for those
> who might actually have been so challenged by major stresses that
> anyone, not just an American, would be facing some degree of PTSD. If
> he would only show some compassion, maybe he'd get some compassion from
> others pertaining to his knee jerk cruelty towards anyone he considers
> is burdening the world by being in it with some sort of defect.
>
> Note that Laptop Barry I'mWright, "The World's Most Excellent Outdoor
> Employee," feels that he's BEING VICTIMIZED by the world's walking
> wounded, and, yeah, he's ready to clomp, stomp and call it a romp on
> their asses if they but whimper a quiet sigh.
>
> Shove a big hairy spider down some five year old's tee shirt and see if
> the kid will ever come near a spider again for an entire lifetime, but
> you can be sure that Turqy the Odious Clod will be there to blame the
> adult person for not having the wherewithal to escape the hold that such
> a fear can have. He can be found ready to make fun of the person for
> their truly believing that one must run from spiders.
>
> Just so, anyone on Earth is almost certain to have experiences that
> would bring most humans to their emotional knees, and few have the
> psychological tools to address the situation well enough to heal such
> that no scars remain to skew their personalities. Over a lifetime, such
> scarring mounts and tipping points are as if everywhere underfoot
> waiting for a misstep that triggers their fullest expression.
>
> To her dying day, my mother was afraid of worms, snakes, caterpillars,
> etc. Jump back ten feet afraid. Scream and run afraid. My mother was
> legally blind but could see a little vague shapes, etc, -- and
> every coiled rope was, indeed, a snake. My family just loved her for
> this, accepted it, and, yeah, as kids, we'd pull her chain by pretending
> to have a worm in our hands when we were too far away for her to know
> for sure or not if we had one. She'd start screaming at us not to come
> any closer and get very anxious. She thought it was funny too, but of
> course, we teased her at our own risks, cuz if you did this trick, Mom
> got mad FIRST before she laughed.
>
> But Barry Write-off would have us making fun of her. Why not, eh? He
> makes fun of every sort of psychological difficulty of every poster here
> -- how dare they post and present their broken minds here.
>
> > Having pursued a spiritual path for over 40 years, it
> > is even more difficult for me to "get" similar levels
> > of paranoia and fear when expressed by spiritual seekers
> > who have been on similar paths for as long as I have.
>
> Oh he's got a closet full of tee shirts. Man are we lucky he deigns to
> post for our enlightenment. How humble he is to note that he too has a
> psychological dent -- he cannot "get" the paranoia and fears of others.
> He admits to an inadequacy -- what a hero.
> >
> > I mean, there are people on this forum -- 30- and 40-year
> > meditators who seem to believe that any man sitting at
> > a cafe or bar is a "predator" secretly there to stalk
> > poor defenseless women.
>
> I don't think the laptoppers are predators if they're targeting ladies
> of their own age bracket, but yeah, a goodly percentage of these guys
> are scouting for babes. Why not? I find no problem with it. But
> can't we admit that this is going on at least?
>
>
> There are people on this forum
> > who seem to believe that people who express different
> > opinions than their own are doing so with malicious
> > intent...intent to *harm* them. And they react as if
> > they *have* been harmed, by nothing more than someone
> > expressing an *idea* that they don't like, or that is
> > different than theirs.
>
> Barry wants us to believe that he is so mentally strong that he will not
> be found to rail about the effects of words on his emotions? As if, eh?
> All one has to do is post anything negative about Barry, and those words
> will trigger him bigtime with a bristling negativity and he'll launch
> his psychic nukes.
>
> > I find myself wondering two things. First, what the hell
> > *happened* to these paranoid, fearful people to make
> > them think this way and live their lives this way?
>
> See? He is saying that anyone with paranoia or fear must have had
> something happen to them that he personally cannot imagine. Do we need
> anything more from Barry to indicate that he has such a shut down heart
> that even his otherwise-fully-operating imagination cannot come up with
> the faintest grasp of how travail can becloud a mind? No wonder he's
> okay with older men getting lucky -- he cannot imagine any damage
> resulting. Again, if he had the least compassion for others, we'd be
> more able to feel sorry for his own blindness, but nah, he simply
> doesn't deserve it. Still, we have to be thankful that Barry gives us
> the hardest challenge of all -- to forgive someone who cannot forgive.
> We can use him for practicing our own compassion, but, icky, eh?
>
> Second,
> > what must it be like *to* live like this, thinking that
> > people around you are actively seeking to do you harm?
>
> Barry, just look in a mirror -- you think Judy is actively seeking to do
> you harm.
>
> > It makes no sense to me, even though I have seen it in
> > many different spiritual organizations over the years.
>
> Another tee shirt moment with Barry......sigh, he's our idol.
>
> > In some, there was a calculated cultist appeal to the
> > "them vs. us" mentality, and that cannot help but foster
> > both elitism and paranoia.
>
> He was involved with cults for decades, but oh, he's the expert now, and
> if you are still in some sort of cult, well, you don't get to waste your
> life like that -- not with Barry The Wonder Dud here to save us -- the
> Wright Knight!
>
> But I've sometimes seen this
> > in people who are *not* heavily involved in organizations
> > I would describe as cults, or not involved deeply. For
> > example, look at the ongoing fascination on this forum
> > with "doomsday scenarios" and "conspiracy theories."
> > What *is* that if not an expression of fear or paranoia?
> > And yet it appears in people who are not part of any
> > organized group that one would characterize as a cult.
>
> Ah, such humility. Here we see Barry working on his latest tee shirt.
> Will he finally be able to arrive at clarity? Stay tuned.
>
> > On this forum we sometimes see the *effects* of having
> > lived in a state of fear and paranoia like this for years.
>
> Barry the super-psychologist spewing clarity like Spring's flowers. He
> knows from even a few posts that certain posters are easily written off
> and not the deserving compassion.
>
> > The people who think like this tend to stand out. But
> > what *made* them like this, when it didn't make others
> > -- who have shared the same spiritual path that they
> > have, and for just as long -- paranoid and fearful the
> > way they are?
>
> Since others had the blessing at birth of having good genetics that
> enabled them to rein their fears, those who were not so favored by the
> luck of the draw from the gene pool must be ridiculed for their
> inadequacies.
>
> >
> > The Rama fellow I studied with had a theory about this,
> > one that I'm not sure is correct, but which I will pass
> > along.
>
> Barry mind is so cool that he can give us "possible truth" from someone
> who committed suicide and make it seem like an answer to life's
> stresses.
>
> His theory was based on "predilections." Some of
> > us are inspired by -- and inspire ourselves by focusing
> > on -- things that are positive and that generate positive
> > emotions. For example, we might inspire ourselves to
> > study a subject harder because we can envision the good
> > we can do once we learn enough to teach or practice what
> > we're studying. I would term that "positive imaging."
> >
> > But other spiritual seekers really don't think like this.
> > Imagining a positive outcome does *not* serve to inspire
> > them. Instead, they keep on keepin' on by imagining and
> > focusing on the worst that could happen to them if they
> > *don't* keep on keepin' on. Examples of this might include
> > people who are literally *afraid* to stop meditating reg-
> > ularly out of fear of "the Bad Things that will happen
> > to them if they do." It includes people who seem to thrive
> > more on guilt and fear -- for example someone who "toes
> > the line" and "follows the rules" because again they keep
> > imagining the Bad Things that will happen to them if
> > they don't. I would tend to term this "negative imaging."
>
> Jung, step aside, Barry has spoken. Negative imagining is a sin -- not
> a psychological challenge that needs addressing.
>
> >
> > My suspicion is that people who fall into the latter
> > category might be more likely to become the kinds of
> > people who view the world around them as constantly
> > threatening, and themselves as constant victims or
> > potential victims. What you focus on you become, and
> > all that. Imagine yourself a victim, and voila...you are.
>
> So, yeah, let's all get it that if someone thinks they're a victim, we
> should victimize them for being so pathetic and in public no less.
> Let's all be certain that only the rarest of circumstances could make
> someone unbalanced. For instance, Barry himself is seeming afraid to
> live in America because of the kinds of minds there....spidery minds, ya
> see? Can't wait for Barry's autobiography, so that we can finally
> understand how it came to be that Barry was the one expat ever in
> history that had such clarity about his decision that no one could say
> he was running in fear, but that he'd made a logical and life supporting
> decision -- not a panic driven escape at any cost even if it means
> tossing all your upbringing and disavowing fifty years of
> identifications. I'm giddy with anticipation.
>
> > All I can say is that there is simply no question about
> > which type of person -- which predilection -- I'd rather
> > be around. Give me the person who views the world around
> > them without fear every time.
>
> Shun the negativists! Be sure that they are not merely struggling with
> tipping point triggers and are, instead, sickos doing their fear-thing
> on purpose. And, hey, it takes a thorn to remove a thorn, so nobody
> better chide Barry for being negative and fearful when it comes to
> negative and fearful people. Barry has the Wright stuff: run from
> folks who have been battered.
>
> Here's the real question: What happened to Barry? Once he was a
> giggling little pink thing in someone's arms and now he's a gagging dink
> thing up in arms.
>
> Oh, I'll use Barry for exploring the limits of my compassion on another
> day. Think I'll use the 30,000 kids who will die today as my object of
> consciousness to practice compassion instead. But, don't tell Barry,
> he'll just use that as an example of my wallowing in paranoia and fear
> and wanting to indulge in negativity instead of, you know, struggling to
> bear and attempt to meet the horrors of the world with clarity.
>
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> Edg
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