--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote: > > > On May 7, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Richard M wrote: > > > That sounds marvelous of course. Jolly good luck to them. > > > > But seriously, who would want to run such courses in today's > > climate of > > fear? With everyone suing at the drop of a hat and a "blame culture" > > that serves to turn everyone into "victims"? > > > > Look at Mr "I learnt to meditate but all I got from TM is a twitch" > > Knapp (cf. your post earlier). Do you seriously think that your > > estimable Alan can guarantee NO side-effects to Michelle and her > > students, given your own startling list of what they might expect > > gleaned from your Vajra Esssence text? Do the course leaders have a > > good legal team? > > > > For my part I think the presumption should be "buyer beware!". If I > > read a story about some Michelle who came away with a twitch after > > attending a retreat that involved hours and hours of meditation, I > > would not immediately sympathasise with her as "victim". For me it > > would make no difference whether the story involved Buddhist, > > Christian, TM or whatever meditation either. > > Honestly, the only place I've seen people come away with unresolvable > twitching and other Tourrette's like symptoms is with TM. In > Muktananda's people, many people would get movements, but they would > resolve, typically through spontaneous mudras or asanas. > > > > > But for you Vaj? Be honest - if the story referenced TM meditation, > > wouldn't you start getting that familiar twitch in your mousing > > fingers? Just gotta scratch that posting itch? > > Kind of an unfair question R. because I'm already intimately familiar > with the range of experiences that go along with TM and the TMSP and > how people tend to parse that lingo on their own and how they also > give coached or nudged responses. I am also tend to be clued into > discriminating the differences between allocentric meditation with > it's results and egocentric meditation and it's results. Perhaps > because I have some experience with both, I'm more attuned to their > descriptions and what they mean. It's something that is typically > (although not always) obvious to me. >
Are you sure you're familiar with the "range of experience" due to TM? L.
