--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 6, 2005, at 8:44 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: > > > Yogis talk about the desirability of awareness with > > no thoughts, but the experience struck me as > > imbalanced, perhaps because I intended to think > > but could not. > > Well *some yogis* consider this desirable, others less so. It's said > among some schools of yogis that becoming an expert in the thought- free > "calm state" can lead to reincarnation in a formless realm. This raises > an interesting possibility: "is non-ideation" an object of meditation? > > My feeling is it can be. > > In some schools of meditation, once the calm state is achieved, > recognized and made stable, we move on to integrating thought with calm > and then eventually simply experiencing thoughts and movement as > non-dual. The nice thing about the latter is that if you can be > spacious enough to experience thoughts and calm as one whole, those > thoughts which arise dissipate and occur less and less. If they do > occur, they need not linger. This is extremely relaxing to experience > and helpful at the same time. The mind becomes much more flexible. In > order to do this though, we have to dissolve even the idea and process > of *meditating*. > > Who meditates? > > Hmmm.
What process of meditation? someone who is enlgihtened, by MY understanding, would think the mantra (ifyou can call still call it thinking) once, and transcend for the entire meditation period. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
