--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozg...@...> wrote:
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> Oh come now, those stimulus packages were from the Bush administration.  




You can't have it both ways.

Either it's change you can believe in

or

Obama is continuing Bush's policies.

Every indication is that with few exceptions he is continuing Bush's policies, 
only with even greater fervour.







> Obama wasn't yet elected back in late September or early October.  Stop 
> trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.  Your observations are 
> one-dimensional.  Obama was left with the mess the Republicans made.
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> And face it we are up a creek.  Obama can't do anything about.  No one 
> can.  It's just the karma of a country that was afflicted with runaway 
> capitalism.  And the prosperity was all phony and based on credit.  The 
> chickens are coming home to roost.  Hold on for the ride of your life.
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> > Bhairitu, look at the deficit spending and also in relation to the over all 
> > size of the budgets of Bush and Obama. Bush also had an expanding economy 
> > most of his 8 years. The economy was steadily growing out of any deficit 
> > spending Bush did, year by year. What remains to be seen is if the economy 
> > will grow out of the Obama deficits. If Obama can't stimulate the economy 
> > to start growing, we are up a cree, with the size of his deficits.
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> > --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Bhairitu <noozg...@...> wrote:
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> > From: Bhairitu <noozg...@...>
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul on Global Warming
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 12:08 AM
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> > Mike, I know you can't be that stupid. Go look at the expenses and the 
> > money spent on the war forchissakes! It was a boondoggle for the 
> > military industrial welfare complex. The US was borrowing money like 
> > crazy for that war. Even without the banking crisis there was a 
> > problem with so much debt. Do yourself a favor and go rent "The 
> > International" on DVD (or BD if you have that). Listen to that little 
> > monologue the head of the Italian armaments company gives in the middle 
> > of the film about how war creates debt. That monologue is so right on 
> > and all explained in a nutshell.
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> > With the money spent on that dumbass war everyone's mortgage could have 
> > been paid off with change left over.
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> >> Sorry Bhairitu, the war had nothing to do with the state our economy is in 
> >> now. That was caused by the housing bubble finally bursting after years of 
> >> Bush warning that it was coming and that Fanny and Freddy were in serious 
> >> need of regulation overhauls. But I am flattered that you admitted we* 
> >> had* a healthy economy, at least through 2006. The Democratic point of 
> >> view all during the Bush years was that the economy sucked, the whole time.
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> >> --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal. net> wrote:
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> >> From: Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal. net>
> >> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul on Global Warming
> >> To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> >> Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 7:42 PM
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> >> I've always thought we should send Shemp off to Mumbai for a while to 
> >> see how he liked living in a polluted city. But then India, since I've 
> >> been there in 1996 has been working on cleaning things up. I believe 
> >> that included a government sponsored program to fix those polluting 
> >> motor carts. Every time I hear the sound of those in an Asian movie I 
> >> get good feelings because it reminds me of India. We don't hear that 
> >> sound around here as there are none of those little cart taxis and 
> >> mopeds are pretty much nonexistent though they are available. Instead 
> >> we get egotistical assholes who like to flaunt their loud Harley's. 
> >> Downtown they'll get a ticket for that.
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> >> BTW Mike, the last time I looked we no longer have a healthy, prosperous 
> >> economy. Bush blew it all on his little war with Saddam. So maybe we 
> >> will see more mopeds. We won't see those motor taxis because they would 
> >> be electric here. And the mopeds come with pollution devices.
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> >>> Edg, have you ever done any *globe trotting*? Ever been to India or 
> >>> China? How about Mexico city? If you had, you'll notice the filth and 
> >>> pollution is many times greater than the worst polluted cities in the US. 
> >>> Why? because these countries don't have an economy that allows them to 
> >>> clean up their streets let alone a toxic waist dump or the air they 
> >>> breath. Nobody wants to live in a garbage dump, breath nasty air or drink 
> >>> and bath in filthy water. However, as long as we have a healthy 
> >>> prosperous economy we can do whatever it takes to clean up our 
> >>> environment and develop new ways of preventing pollution in the first 
> >>> place. Look at what we have accomplished here in the US and then compare 
> >>> that to the newly developing countries mentioned above. We don't need to 
> >>> *de-industrialize* in order to clean up pollution, just modernize and 
> >>> develop newer technologies that advance our civilization and economies.
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