--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > <snip> > > The response to Shemp's question has been > > a veritable orgy of "Oh...another opportunity > > to protect my belief in my favorite form of > > Woo Woo by urging someone else to believe in > > it, too." > > From another post of Barry's the same day: > > > Those who believe that the vegetables they eat don't > > feel being killed just haven't looked very deeply > > into things.
How long are you going to pretend that you didn't see this post, Judy? Are you going to be as much of a wimp about addressing it as Raunchydog was? A Challenge To The Hillary Hanger-On-ers Having written earlier about TRENDS in people's posts, here's another I've noticed. Here it is over a year after Hillary lost her bid for the Presidential nomination, the Hillary Hanger-On-ers keep bringing it up, and yet I cannot remember a single post in which they pointed out a reason for her losing *that was Hillary's fault*. Everything has been in terms of victim mentality. "Hillary lost because such-and-such was done to her." "Hillary lost because so-and-so done her wrong." "Hillary lost because the deck was stacked against her by such-and-such nefarious people or organization." NOT ONCE do I remember the two strident Hillary sup- porters citing anything that was actually Hillary's FAULT as a reason for her loss. It was always SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT. So here's my challenge: Write a post in which you list five things that Hillary Clinton did wrong or did badly -- so wrong or so badly that these mistakes or inadequacies cost her the nom- ination. These five "bullet points" cannot be "back-door blame" arguments, like "Hillary wasn't tough enough on all the people using sexism against her," which implies (again) that losing wasn't really her fault...it was these *other* people's fault...the ones she wasn't tough enough on. Nope, these have to be five mistakes or mis- steps that she herself bears the responsibility for. Because -- damnit -- Hillary was running for the biggest "The Buck Stops Here" office in the world. IF she had won the nomination and the Presidency, she would not have been *able* to play the "blame game" and point fingers at others when criticized. As President, the buck stops with her. As a candidate for President, and the person in charge of her campaign, I think that the buck stops equally with her. To her credit, I've seen Hillary be open about and take responsibility for some of these fuckups on her part. To her credit, *she* does not whine and play the "blame game," especially now that the "game" is history, and forgotten by all except those who don't seem to be able to play anything *else*. This should not be a hard task. I can think of five such points just off the top of my head. If I needed to Google to back them up, I can think of five or six articles written during the primaries by journalists traveling with Hillary's campaign that wrote eloquently about the chaos behind the scenes, the ego-battles and histrionics, the in-fighting, the economic shambles that her campaign became, and the effect that *her* behind-the-scenes tendency to rip her campaign members a new asshole when things were going badly. You Hillary Hanger-On-ers should equally be able to find such articles, and thus come up with five points to meet my challenge. But will you? Are you even ABLE to put into writing the things that Hillary did wrong *without* blaming them on someone else? I guess we'll see...
