--- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_re...@...> wrote: > > Vaj, > > I just ran around nude. > > And the screams -- wow, I don't think my neighbors are ever going to stop. > > I'll post the whole event on youtube.
How long did you say you were meditating....? Ususally things like that don't happen till after a long rounding course. :-) > Heh, if I did do that, man, I'd be transformed. Why the jail-time alone would > punch my ticket. So many therapies out there; how to choose. > > Geeze I'm posting up a storm -- am I near the posting limit? > > Too lazy to count. > > Edg > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 30, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > > I'm not sure I buy into the "get the rage all out by screaming" > > > concept as a universal therapy. With a psychologist monitoring me, > > > I pounded a punching bag and screamed for a bit, and, well, maybe I > > > didn't do enough of it to get to the space you say you've entered. > > > To me, running energy is fraught with the risk of hardwiring oneself > > > with patterns not easily removed because the therapeutic intensity > > > sorta burns them into the nervous system as an all time reality, and > > > there they are years later still pronging the mind enough to conjure > > > up negative ideation. > > > > > > It's not necessarily 'get it out by screaming' IMO. In Mahasandhi or > > Dzogchen practice, an important part of the purification necessary in > > many people to be able to grok and "hold" the nondual, natural > > condition is rather rapid release of atavistic, subconscious material > > in a very purgatory but efficient manner. This can often be so > > dramatic that the advice is to go, alone, to a solitary place and > > perform the practices to trigger this release. Some people may howl, > > others may take on various animal forms, screaming, running around in > > the nude, etc. Many different variations are possible. Most are > > unpleasant enough and offensive enough to consensus mores, that it > > often best to just go some place secluded. Some native American > > shamans do the same thing. > > > > Sounds to me like Alex has some very accepting and understanding > > friends who also hold very cool parties! > > >
