--Jesus said that the "Kingdom of Heaven is Within. Not in a statue 
of a man hanging on a crosss, in a sickening display of Roman 
torture, ridicule, and death...
Not in the book of dogmas, not in the building called a church, but 
within. 
Going within is a serious process; it's much easier to search for 
God ourside or yourself. 
But until you go completely within, God is just a fanciful concept 
an imagined dream...
- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --- off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > In the video Kai Druhl comes across as a christian
> > > fundamentalist
> > > nut.
> > > You can almost hear the reporter cringing, as Kai
> > > says that "TM
> > > prevents the experience of Jesus".
> > > 
> > > What a nut.
> > 
> > I don't think he's a nut at all. I completely
> > understand the point he's making. It's a subtle
> > conflict between the approaches of bhakti and gyana. A
> > bhakti surrenders to God. A gyani takes on the
> > responsibility of his own evolution through the
> > practice of techniques and life-style changes. Only at
> > the end of the path does a gyani finally transcend his
> > bondage into God, while a bhakti starts with this
> > assumption and approach.
> 
> The practice of TM doesn't involve surrendering
> to God right from the start??
> 
> Isn't that what you're doing every time you go
> back to the mantra?  Or at least every time you
> transcend?
> 
> That's how I think of TM, at any rate, as a
> systematic process of surrender to the
> Ultimate.




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