I agree with what you say about Hagelin, but Tony Nader is intellectually very capable. He has both an MD and PhD from reputable institutions (one at least, possibly both, from The American University in Beirut, Lebanon which his is country of origin.
I knew him many, many years and MMY had him marked out as someone MMY was very interested in "grooming" as soon as he finished his MD/PhD*. One piece of data that I just recall which supports that: MMY arranged a TTC Phase 3 for Tony and just one other person. About two months later, a regular (i.e. sufficient numbers of students) TTC began, and Tony and the other guy joined the newer one hearing the first two months of tapes over again. *Some people may remember that Tony then got a post-doctoral fellowship of some kind at Harvard and made the university _very_ unhappy when he attempted to have readers of some of his work believe that Harvard supported some of his ideas. --- In [email protected], guyfawkes91 <no_re...@...> wrote: > > > > [Although, FWIW, I would not at all be surprised if Hagelin bailed one of > > these days. Of the three (Hagelin, Morris, Ram), I think he is the only > > one with the strength to do so and definitely the only one with any chance > > of making it in the real world. Given the culture Ram comes from, if he > > prostrates himself again and again and again....(something he should be > > used to by now) before his family and if they have money, he would be > > covered, I guess.] > > > Hagelin is an interesting case. I think there is some part of him which is > dimly aware that he's spouting junk. All that time with proper scientists and > having to do hard calculations must have left an impression somewhere. He's > the one who has to work hardest to keep himself convinced of what he's saying > because he does have the intelligence and the training to work out that it's > garbage. The others, Bevan and Tony, don't have the intellect to appreciate > fine points of reason and logic. > > Hagelin keeps himself convinced by making lots of speeches to people who know > little or nothing about science and getting plenty of adulation from the > credulous. "All these people think I'm wonderful therefore I must be right" > is the rather distorted reasoning going on there. If he withdrew from the > adoring crowds and sat down with a pencil and paper to work things out he > might start having doubts > > Of the other characters, Tony is quite a mild mannered person, even if he > doesn't have the training and natural aptitude to spot that his ideas are > garbage, he does at least have the temperament to stop the wilder nutjobs at > Vlodrop getting too far out of sync with reality. Seeing as he wears a crown > and issues "decrees" that's a relative thing only by comparison with people > like Schiffgens, Konhaus and Morris who really are out of it. >
