--- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "shanti2218411" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > -I am defining hope here as the the expectation that things can 
change
> > in a positive way.It is well understood that any treatment will
> > influence a persons expectations.The word treatment here is  
broadly
> > defined ie anything the person construes might bear on their how
> > effective thier therapy will be eg what medical school the Dr went
> > to,whether a friend has benefited from the rx.So if your Dr went 
to 
> > Harvard you MAY have more "hope" that your rx will be effective 
and
> > your condition will improve(this will depend on what you think 
about
> > his having gone to Harvard).Positive expectations have been shown 
to
> > affect real clinical measures eg how quickly a person's temp 
returns
> > to normal post sugery.When you give a person a drug you can
> >  potentially strongly influence his expections that he will obtain
> > relief/improvement.
> 
> All good and insightful points. 
> 
> It would be interesting to see some studies on TM (or other yoga /
> meditation / tantra methods) in which one grouip had the standard
> intro lectures are given -- which some would say build expectations,
> even initial conditioning, about the results of the practice. And
> compare this another group with a "pearls before swine approach": no
> expectations-laced intro lecture, rather "here is a technique, it 
may
> help or may hurt you, try it out and report back".

Since instilling optimism IS part of the overall TM instruction, I 
don't think that any on-the-program TM teacher would be willing to 
participate.

HOWEVER, the inverse of your proposal --to try to make participants 
in the other meditation/relaxationtechniques have the same 
expectations and learning experience as the TM students-- HAS been 
done.






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