Two more leaving FF. Saying good-bye. Heading off. In line to order lunch today at Revelations, ran into 2 more leaving. These last folks were here for 11 years this time. This makes running in to 9 people in the last week or so who are leaving. A movement going?
> Thanks Hugo, thoughtful response. These are all parts of it. I do wish them > well and hope for the best for them. > > The TMmovement won't come to an end any time soon or move away from > Fairfield tomorrow. Nor is the larger meditating community of Fairfield > going anywhere soon. Yet the TMovement evidently is in a chronic defense > mode from its own scorched -earth policy and guidelines which date back some > years. They've behaved badly some. > > They have made their own kind of trouble in their way of being. > Kind of isolated now in the market place and from a lot of their meditating > community otherwise with their own kind of spiritual arrogance. > > All in all, FF is still extremely vital as a spiritual place to be in. Is > Fairfieldlife. Is a pretty special place that way. > > > -Doug in FF > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "hugheshugo" <richardhughes103@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "dhamiltony2k5" <dhamiltony2k5@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Folks saying good-bye. The last few days I learned that five long-time > > > friends are leaving Fairfield now. From different circles. Long-time > > > meditators. From different parts of the meditating community. > > > > > > Used to be folks figured how to come to FF to be in the domes for group > > > meditation . The sacrifice and excitment was about being in the domes > > > meditating in group. > > > > > > Seems lot of you writing here don't seem to live close to Fairfield. > > > Some kind of interest in Fairfieldlife but not living here in FF. > > > > > > > > > Not being here you may not see the complexion of the meditating community > > > in FF. Fact is there are a lot more FF meditators in town outside of the > > > domes than inside the domes. With people out and dome numbers > > > chronically down, that gathering impetus is less. Has been for some > > > while. Too many turned out who are here as meditators is a number that > > > does eats at the dome community. An administrative problem evidently > > > that is the status quo. > > > > > > > I can see why you'd be annoyed at the TMO screwing up the > > running of the domes and people leaving town because of it, > > but you do have to see the TMOs side of it, they are a > > fundamentalist religious sect and like all religions they > > do practise a "No other God but me" approach to their > > gatherings. And you can see why, if people go about saying > > that such and such Guru is just as good as Marshy then people > > might start asking questions like "Could I be doing better > > with my choice of meditation?" and they don't want that! > > > > The trouble is the TMO insists that it's a secular group and > > the stuff about doing puja to Hindu Gods is really just > > "enlivening aspects of the laws of nature". People are genuinely > > fooled by that and actually act as though they aren't religious > > despite the fact they do yoga and meditation for hours every day, > > follow a prescribed diet and even say grace before every meal! > > That's not even getting into the weird belief system (and it is > > weird, you may just be so used to it you've forgotten how the > > rest of the world is - easily done in a closed group). Finding > > out that their are some serious control freak issues at the heart > > of the TMO comes as a shock to most and drives most people away, > > I don't know many without some sort of horror story about bad > > management. If they were straight with you from the start would > > there be all this trouble? > > > > But help is at hand. I sense you are concerned with the effect > > on collective consciousness and that the people currently being > > refused dome entry are going to have some sort of negative > > impact on world affairs. Regardless of whether the Maharishi > > Effect even exists (I think not - but then I always argue > > according to evidence and not what I'm told to think) the > > greater amount of people doing prog outside the domes will make > > up for the fewer people inside the domes. If it's a field effect > > (as claimed) then there must be 4000 doing prog and adding their effect (if > > any) to the official number. I think Hagelin and the > > boys at MUM should take the numbers of ALL people doing the > > siddhis in FF and add that to their calculations. Of course, > > they'd then have to explain why it STILL isn't having any effect ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trouble in FF, > > > > > > > > http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trouble in FF. > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, evidently meditator FF folk recently re-registering are being > > > > > > asked at registration if they have 'seen' other saints. Responding > > > > > > 'yes', these TM meditators are denied re-registration on the spot. > > > > > > > > > > > > & Raja John Hagelin is aware of this? Its consequent in the > > > > > > meditating community just by word of mouth on the numbers of people > > > > > > who could be doing program in the domes? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does Hagelin know? > > > > > > > > > > Would seem like Hagelin is getting stabbed in the back by his > > > > > dogmatic doctrinal types within TMmovement administration. > > > > > > > > > > Must be mighty frustrating in there for Hagelin while his dome > > > > > numbers sag & the meditating community gets distanced from the the > > > > > movement again like this. Sad to watch tragedy like his. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:12:39 -0500 > > > > > > > Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin > > > > > > > From: Invincible America <communication@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The July 2009 Invincible America Assembly was perfect in every > > > > > > > way." > > > > > > > - IA Course Participant > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Now it's August. Many visitors have left. Our Super Radiance > > > > > > >> numbers > > > > > > > are in a lull until the MUM students return and the next group of > > > > > > > Maharishi Vedic Pandits arrive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We urgently need all local Sidhas to attend morning and evening > > > > > > > programs. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for being here in wonderful > > > > > > > Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JAI GURU DEV > > > > > > > ox
