On Oct 12, 2009, at 9:56 PM, off_world_beings wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:
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> On Oct 12, 2009, at 8:07 PM, yifuxero wrote:
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> > The bottom line is that we can (a) transcend changes, or (b) make
> > changes.
> > The evidence for the "making changes" part simply isn't there!
> > I therefore agree with the other contributor. The connections are
> > tenuous.
> > There could actually be a negative payoff, in certain circumstances;
> > although by no means approaching the levels suggested by Vaj.
> > Usually, people just quit since they haven't seen any results.
>
>
> I would beg to differ--I'd actually propose mental worship and/or
> meditation on an ishta-devata (e.g simple mental mantra recitation)
> can bring and is believed to bring relative benefits. YMMV. The
> question is: when someone isn't aware that the relative benefit is
> essentially a "boon" from a inner goddess radiating her effects via
> your nervous system onto your connection with the outer world; when
> that inner level of intention is missing through deception, does it
> work or does it work as well (as if you knew you were reciting, say, a
> mantra to the goddess of wisdom and inspired speech)? Or can the
> deception block that relative effect?
>
> IME teachers who simply ask their students "what are you looking for, > or what do you want in life" and then give a mantra for that benefit,
> at least the student has some involvement at the level of intention.
> They are aligned with the benefit. If the student is left in the dark,
> that specific intention is left as an ambiguity.
>

Seeking benefits is stupid.
Meditate and enjoy, that is Maharishi's advice.

No need to seek, but it's good to be aware.

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