--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > One of the assumptions that I was talking 
> > > > about previously that we have all been spoon fed is that 
> because 
> > a 
> > > > culture is deep inland it must have been be sea-faring 
inept. 
> > This 
> > > > is unlikely since Tibetans travelled far and wide. Buddhism 
> > > > naturally spread across Tibet and China for the sole reason 
> that 
> > > > they were not really distinct and travelled with ease. 
> > > 
> > > They traveled much further than that.  There are huge
> > > outposts of Tibetan culture in Mongolia and Manchuria
> > > and Russia, and evidence that Tibetans once inhabited
> > > areas of the Pyrennes.  Traveling to spread the dharma
> > > is what they *did*.  Suggesting that they traveled to
> > > North America is certainly not out of the question.>>>
> > 
> > And if the Chinese had those huge ocean going junks and were 
used 
> to 
> > travelling vast distances, then the Tibetan Bhuddists would 
> > ceratinly have been involved in that due to your statement about 
> how 
> > far and wide they were already established. Interesting. Thanks
> > 
> > > 
> > > The possible link between the Hopis and the Navajos
> > > has been suggested by many people, including the Dalai
> > > Lama.  I don't know whether it has been established
> > > or not physically (via DNA tests), but if you knew
> > > Tibetan culture that wouldn't even be necessary. They
> > > have tales of whole monasteries or villages picking up 
> > > and "migrating" to another place en masse, via mass
> > > reincarnation.>>>
> > 
> > Also, the word Navajo is interesting. It may be related to the 
> > Sankrti 'Nau'(pronounced with the 'u' almost like a 'v')  
> > meaning 'ship' which gives us ('Navy, Nautical). So if a race 
were 
> > ocean going travellers and it was as natural to them as crossing 
> > vast deserts by camel was to the desert tribes, then it is 
highly 
> > likely that they would call themselves 'The Mariners', which in 
> > Sanskrit would be the "Nav..." Or those who met them would call 
> them 
> > that.
> 
> I think its a stretch to assign linguistic stuff likethat. >>


Well yea ! Of course its a stretch. It was a conservative response 
to this idea that was mentioned """but if you knew Tibetan culture 
that wouldn't even be necessary. They have tales of whole 
monasteries or villages picking up and "migrating" to another place 
en masse, via mass reincarnation."""

<<< Surely such obvious similarities between 
> Sanskrit and American languages would have been noted in the 
> scholarly works? >>

There are many.
The word 'Niagara' in The native tongue means great waterfall. There 
is a similar word in Sanskrit that means the same thing. 
I'll think of the better ones later, but consider this: Place names 
in the Americas and names of sages and gods in Vedas:

Guatamala - Gautama
Maya - Maya
Canada - Kanada
Mperu - Meru
Veda  - Veda

Same Aryan name of God: When Cortes invaded the valley of Mexico he 
found that the Mexicans  - through the chief motive of his great 
adventure was to destroy their religion and to substitute his own, 
had the same word for God that he himself had. His own (Spanish) was 
Dios, from Greek Theos, the Mexican, as Cortes converted it to 
writing, was Teotl (note: these Dios and Teotl when written down 
look different, but when spoken are remarkably similar).
http://www.atributetohinduism.com/Pacific.htm#Imprint%20of%20Hindu%
20Culture

Trilokinath, the Hindu ruler of the three worlds, was known to the 
Mexicans by the name, until the Spanish conquerors mistakenly 
changed the name into Tloque Nahuaque.

Even Yama, the god of death of Hindu mythology, has found his way to 
Mexico and Peru, while typically Hindu lotus and chakras motifs 
adorn the temples

Donald A. Mackenzie writes in his book, Myths of Pre-Columbian 
America : "The doctrine of the World's Ages (from Hindu Yugas) was 
imported into Pre-Columbian America...the Mexican sequence is 
identical with the Hindus....The essential fact remains that they 
were derived from a common source...It would be ridiculous to assert 
that such a strange doctrine was of spontaneous origin in different 
parts of the Old and New Worlds."
http://www.atributetohinduism.com/Pacific.htm#Imprint%20of%20Hindu%
20Culture

Still another scholar, Ambassador Miles Poindexter, a former 
ambassador of the United States to Mexico, in his two-volume 1930s 
treatise The Ayar-Incas called the Mayan 
civilization "unquestionably Hindu." He proposed that primitive 
Aryan words and people came to America by the island chains of 
Polynesia. The Mexican name for boat is a South Indian Tamil word, 
Catamaran, and Poindexter gives a long list of words of the Quichua 
languages and their analogous forms in Sanskrit. Similarities 
between the hymns of the Inca rulers of Peru and Vedic hymns have 
been pointed out.  A. L. Krober has also found striking similarities 
between the structure of Indo-European and the Penutian language of 
some of the tribes along the northwestern coast of California. 
Recently, an Indian scholar, B. C. Chhabra,in his Vestiges of Indian 
Culture in Hawaii  has noticed certain resemblances between the 
symbols found in the petroglyohs from the Hawaiian Islands and those 
on the Harappan seals. Some of the symbols in the petroglyphs are 
described as akin to early Brahmi script.
http://www.atributetohinduism.com/Pacific.htm#Imprint%20of%20Hindu%
20Culture





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