--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:57 PM, cardemaister wrote:
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> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> > >
> > 
> > > If people want a simple meditation that will enable them to develop 
> > > and maintain peace of mind I would recommend that they try to attend 
> > > introductory classes on Buddhist meditation which will introduce them 
> > > to breathing meditation as taught in most traditions of Buddhism.
> > >
> > 
> > Does that type of meditation eventually "produce" the fourth
> > praaNaayaama? For me that's about the only objective indication
> > of whether a meditation technique is effective or not. YMMV, of course!
> 
> 
> The fourth pranayama is produced by mastering kumbhaka and meditation.
> 
> Are you claiming to have experienced the fourth pranayama Card?
>

It seems to me Maharishi thinks the slowing down and occasional
stoppage of breathing during TM is what PataƱjali means by caturthaH 
(praaNaayaamaH), because that prolly is (almost?) the conditio sine qua non of 
dhaaraNaa (the first "part" of saMyama).



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