--- In [email protected], "wayback71" <waybac...@...> wrote:
>
> When teachers get health insurance for their families as part 
> of their benefits., it is valued at $18,000 per year for a family 
> of 4 - at least in my neck of the woods.  This is traditional 
> health insurance, not the disaster type  with high deductibles 
> that you  have, Rick.  $18,000 is a lot of money for a family - 
> if it is not part of your benefits package at a job.

To provide some perspective on this, I repeat the
numbers I have posted here several times. In the
US, as a self-employed person who never actually 
ever *used* the health insurance I paid for "just
in case" (and thus had no medical history that 
would have jacked up the prices), I paid $600 
per month for my policy.

Then I moved to France. Not being part of the French
system, I had to buy health insurance from a private
insurance company. It cost me 240 Euros ($325). Per
*year*. For that price I actually received better
coverage than I had in the US for $600 per month.
In the rare times that I went to a doctor, I never
had to pay a penny for it.

In Spain it costs me a little more than I paid in
France, but not very much more. My yearly cost for
full health care coverage *plus* dental is less than
what I used to pay in the US per month, without any
dental coverage there. Again, no visit to a doctor
or dentist has ever cost me a penny out of pocket.

Bottom line? You Americans have not only been taken
to the cleaners by the insurance companies, the drug
companies, and the medical establishment (for-profit
doctors, HMOs, and hospitals), you're so *used* to
being taken to the cleaners that many of you are
freaking out and panicking and running around like
crazy people screaming "socialized medicine" as the
first steps are taken to *stop* you being taken to
the cleaners. 

The only conclusion I can draw from this is that
America is a nation of masochistic retards.


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