--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <geezerfr...@...> wrote:
>
> Cippolina was a real master, way ahead of his time. Is he still 
> around? Those Quicksilver concerts when they were a quartet with 
> Gary Duncan, were incredible!

As I see from Message View that Bhairitu posted,
John died some time ago. I agree with you about
the original quartet. Back when I and my college
hippie friends were promoting rock concerts,
Quicksilver was our favorite group to hire. And
to party with.

The dynamic between Cippolina and Gary Duncan
(self-described as "The Agony and the Ecstasy")
was electric, and wonderful. None of the "latter"
formations of Quicksilver (adding Dino Valenti
and Nicky Hopkins) were as good. 

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
> >
> > tartbrain wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
> > >   
> > >> tartbrain wrote:
> > >>     
> > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
> > >>>   
> > >>>       
> > >>>> I had some email exchanges with Alan a few years back.  He had claimed 
> > >>>> on his podcast that rock musicians of the 1960s didn't know that much 
> > >>>> about music (he claims to be a former profession songwriter).   Au 
> > >>>> contraire, even people like Graham Parson had jazz backgrounds.   
> > >>>> Brian 
> > >>>> Wilson was also into jazz and composition.   So were many of the well 
> > >>>> known rock stars I met and we used to compare notes.  I particularly 
> > >>>> remember siting with some of the guys from the Greatful Dead at my 
> > >>>> house 
> > >>>> listening to John Cage.  We were all music students that looked at the 
> > >>>> rock scene and thought "hey we can write that stuff in our sleep!" 
> > >>>>     
> > >>>>         
> > >>> With all due respect to John Cage -- he broke a lot of boundaries, but 
> > >>> the John Cage concert I went to -- was about 1000 record players each 
> > >>> playing a different song, symphony opera, nature sound world music or 
> > >>> spoken narrative.  And John was there, but no visibly present. Probably 
> > >>> walking around the audience -- who were walking among the record 
> > >>> players. Or perhaps hiding behind a stage curtain -- I could have 
> > >>> written that in my sleep. In fact I think I have a few times. 
> > >>>
> > >>> Did you know Emil Richards and his cosmic micro tonal band? Paul Horn's 
> > >>> friend. And a  meditator of course.
> > >>>
> > >>> The Grateful Dead seemed to be sort of micro tonal -- tuning their 
> > >>> guitars to some out there scale. And particularly QuickSilver live -- 
> > >>> who I used to tell friends "they played like you know,  100 dissonate 
> > >>> notes and chords  per second"
> > >>>
> > >>> Or maybe they were just to far tripping to tune their guitars by 
> > >>> standard means.
> > >>>
> > >>> And thanks for the Digital video insights
> > >>>
> > >>>  
> > >>>   
> > >>>       
> > >> I didn't know Emil Richards but did know Paul Horn.  I knew the 
> > >> Quicksilver guys too.  Lived next door to John Cipollina and Nicky 
> > >> Hopkins (who also played on a lot of the Beatles cuts as well as in The 
> > >> Rolling Stones).
> > >>     
> > >
> > > I like the breadth of Nicky Hopkins -- he was everywhere. I remember him 
> > > from the Jeff Beck Group (with Rod Stewart -- when he was good :), Ronny 
> > > Wood and of course Jeff Beck. And later with Jefferson Airplane -- and 
> > > about everybody else. 
> > >
> > > John Cipollina was amazing to watch live. And had the look of the 
> > > archetypal hippie -- when the term was new and fresh -- tall, thin, long 
> > > stringy hair, intense gaunt look, good and interesting guitarist.  QS's 
> > > "Who Do You Love" -- the greatest rock song ever recorded -- or played 
> > > live. 
> > >
> > > "To create his distinctive guitar sound, Cipollina developed a one of a 
> > > kind amplifier stack. His Gibson SG guitars had two pickups, one for bass 
> > > and one for treble. The bass pickup fed into two Standel bass amps on the 
> > > bottom of the stack, each equipped with two 15-inch speakers. The treble 
> > > pickups fed two Fender amps: a Fender Twin Reverb with two 12-inch 
> > > speakers and a Fender Dual Showman that drove six Wurlitzer horns. His 
> > > style was highly melodic and expressive. Cipollina's classical past no 
> > > doubt influenced his guitar style, which was miles beyond the usual 
> > > pentatonic blues-scale work of many of the other psychedelic-era 
> > > guitarists. His work on fellow dueling guitarist Gary Duncan's electric 
> > > arrangement/adaption of Dave Brubeck's "Take Five", retitled "Gold and 
> > > Silver," which appears on the self-titled first album of Quicksilver, is 
> > > an excellent example of how Cipollina took rock to places it usually 
> > > didn't dare to venture." 
> > >
> > > You didn't live next door to them in Mill Valley did you? If so -- did 
> > > you hang with Clover? Sons of Champlain? (And who was "The Girl from Mill 
> > > Valley" that Hopkins composed a song for on Beckola?)
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> > 
> > Yup, it was Mill Valley with George and Marsha Lucas living across the 
> > street.  Nick Gravenites hung out there frequently.  Didn't know the Son 
> > of Champlain but hitched a ride with the father once.  Don't know who 
> > the girl was.  Played in another band which had a house in San Anselmo 
> > where a little redhead girl would come over and belt out some blues 
> > (Bonnie Raitt).  John was always working on his guitars doing custom things.
> >
>


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