--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon <mdixon.6...@...> wrote: > > As I said, all prophecy is a matter of faith until it happens. Your original > question was *what happens to the Jews that don't accept Christ?* I > explained, from a prophetic point of view, what is supposed to happen. The > Bible is full of prophecies from Genesis to Revelation of the coming of > Messiah. I'm not going to bother to look each statement up and give you > book, chapter and verse, it would take too much of my time and would fall on > deaf ears anyway( fable written by a primitive desert tribe). Most of what > I've replied to you is found in Genesis, Revelation and the writings of Paul. > I'll be the first to admit, I could be wrong in my understanding, but from > what I've learned in recent years, it sure makes more since than the > Replacement theology taught for so long, which would make God a liar in his > own words. As for what anybody chooses to believe, that's their business, not > mine.
I simply answered your original question based on my understanding > of prophecies. > Thanks for sharing 'your' understanding. It's quite apparent that other Christians, particularly from the Christian Right, have their own very different understandings/interpretations. 'My' understanding from the Christian fundamentalists is generally that anyone who doesn't accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior, is headed for the not-so-fun-at-all 'Lake of Fire' described in the Book of Revelation. > ________________________________ > From: do.rflex <do.rf...@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 12:54:11 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever > >  > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@> wrote: > > > > I don't doubt that is what Uri Avnery believes, as most Jews > > believe,àbecause that is what most Christian theologians believed and > > have been teaching for two thousand years. It's called *replacement > > theology*,Christians believed theyàreplace the Jews as the *chosen > > people*. However, times and thinking have changed dramatically in recent > > decades since the *fig tree* has begun to bud.Christians have been dropping > > replacement theology like a hot potato because it is not Biblical. Again, > > read, better yet, studyàthe story of Joseph, it is all there in far > > greater detail than I could possibly go into here. Joseph, betrayed by his > > brothers, saves the day for all of them, just as Christ saves the day for > > all the Jews, not just Jewish believers, from total destruction. > > > > Who's to say all of that is anything more than a thousands of years old fable > written by someone from a primitive desert tribe you've interpreted to > comform to your own present day personal Christianist views, Mike? > > > > At that time, the Jews will accept him as their messiah, not knowing it is > Jesus until he reveals the scars in his hands, feet and side, > > > > Where does it say that in the Bible, Mike? > > àjust as Joseph revealed his circumcision to prove he was > > his brother's brother.At that time, the *scales* that blinded the eyes of > > the Jewish people to the identity of Christ, as it did with Saul of Tarsus, > > will be removed and there will be a great healing/ awakeningàbetween > > Christ, the church and the Jewish people, as it was when Joseph revealed > > his true identity to his brothers. > > > > Where is this comparison of scales being removed from the eyes of the Jewish > people to be found in the Bible, Mike? > > < John , you're still thinking in old, out dated, theological teaching, > regarding the Christian faith, as many still do. The Bible teaches that when > the Messiah comes, Jews and Gentiles will be united together as one. > > > > Where in the Bible does it clearly and specifically indicate that, "when the > Messiah comes, Jews and Gentiles will be united together as one?" > > Who's to say YOUR views are right and other Christian's views are wrong? > > And... What if the Jews don't buy your personal interpretation of the Bible? > Do you think they don't or won't have free choice? What do the Christianists > say is going to happen to the Jews - or anyone else - who doesn't accept > Jesus as their Savior? > > > > The Gentiles will be grafted into the tree of Abraham through the church. Of > course, until it all happens, it is a matter of faith. > > __ > > ______________________________ > > From: do.rflex <do.rflex@> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 8:11:11 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever > > > > à> > > > > > The fate of the Jews: > > > > Uri Avnery, is the leader of Gush Shalom, an Israeli peace group. He was > > discussing the theology of many Fundamentalist and other Evangelical > > Christians in a 2002-JUN essay, and wrote: > > > > "According to its theological beliefs, the Jews must congregate in > > Palestine and establish a Jewish state on all its territory so as to make > > the Second Coming of Jesus Christ possible... > > > > the evangelists don't like to dwell openly on what comes next: > > > > before the coming [of the Messiah], the Jews must convert to Christianity. > > Those who don't will perish in a gigantic holocaust in the battle of > > Armageddon. This is basically an anti-Semitic teaching..." 1 > > > > This teaching implies that Jews who remain true to God's covenants in the > > Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) will be all exterminated in a massive > > genocide that may be more numerous than the Nazi Holocaust. > > > > http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_isra.htm > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You might like this article by Dennis Prager on the Genesis prediction > > > and Israel and why conservative christians believe in a strong Israel: > > > > > > http://tiny.cc/pxnx5 > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If your question is serious, read the story of Joseph in Genesis. Then > > > > substitute Jesus for Joseph and Joseph's brothers for the Jewish > > > > people, (really the Pharisees). Many students of prophecy believe that > > > > the Old Testament is the truth concealed and the New Testament is the > > > > Truth revealed. Both stories parallel each other very closely. Example, > > > > Joseph is sold into slavery by his jealous brothers for 30 pieces of > > > > silver. Joseph is falsely accused and thrown in prison but rises up to > > > > sit at the right hand of Pharaoh. Joseph's brothers realize and confess > > > > their sin against their father and brother. Joseph forgives them, > > > > seeing the greater divine plan, then brings his whole family into > > > > Egypt, saving them from famine and death, where they enjoy great > > > > prosperity. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: do.rflex <do.rflex@> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 3:52:37 PM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This is the reason why this city could be the cause of Armageddon, > > > > > the next world war. It is likely that the US would be on the side of > > > > > Israel since there are still fundamentalist Christians who believe > > > > > that this war will be between the forces of good and evil, thus > > > > > leading to the Second Coming of Christ and the Rapture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do these fundamentalist Christians say is going to happen to the > > > > Jews who don't accept Jesus as their Savior? > > > > > > > > > Also, there is a fairly strong Jewish influence in the US which will > > > > > lobby the politicians to support the Israeli cause. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I expect squirming from the usual suspects > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
