I have interacted with that group off and on for over a month. I do not see the 
formality that you see, or the stiffness that you perhaps imply. 

For example, at a formal country dance, it would be utterly out of place to 
call people on their stuff. (Well, Jane Austen might, but with  impeccably good 
taste and subtlety). I have seen members there challenge the deepest, most 
fundamental of other's experiencea there, experiences of which Joe Biden might 
say, "thats a big f'ing deal"  -- from which came only respectful responses -- 
encouraging the conversation. While I enjoy the rough and tumble atmosphere 
here, I do note that there are at times a number of conversation stoppers  -- 
insults, not so good-natured mocking, "can't get over it" ad infinitum 
responses, and all. Kurt Colbain might say it smells like teen egos.

As far as the "we are special" or arrogance syndrome, I have not gotten that 
from my conversations there. If anything, its an open naturalness -- even to 
the extent of "this is the mundane" type of attitude. 

People there are friendly and supportive. I can see how that may seem odd and 
strange to some here -- at times -- though certainly not the group as a whole. 

As far as politics and social views -- I tend to look at those in that group -- 
as I would / did political views from M -- a personal view -- nothing 
necessarily or particularly enlightened or wisdom soaked.  If a fault, perhaps 
a confidence in the validity of their views -- not introspective and 
questioning so much -- perhaps a bit of group think -- but then there are only 
5-6 people actually posting much there and groupthink can easily happen in 
smaller groups. 

Overall, I find it an upbeat, generally informed, cordial group. Not as wide 
ranging in topics as this group -- but that may be due to the small number of 
folks posting.










  

--- In [email protected], "lurkernomore20002000" <steve.sun...@...> 
wrote:
>
> 
> --- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@>
> wrote:
> 
> > I wonder, if he's being so obvious about it, if maybe
> > it's some kind of a set-up.  I mean, I could really see
> > Shemp trying something like this out, and then saying...
> > "See?  I was right!  All you liberals really are phony hypocrites..."
> 
> Nah, it's more like a rennaisance dance over there.  The interactions
> are all pretty polite, and follow a somewhat formal structure.  First
> you nod or curtsey (acknowledge the worth of the person you are
> addressing). Then you take their hand, and engage in the first steps of
> the dance ( begin the content of your post), take a few twirls (most of
> their posts tend to be brief), and pass your partner on the next person,
> ( acknowledge that you have enjoyed the chat, and that, more
> importantly, some insight has been gained).  I think you've been hanging
> around here too long.
>


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