Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantrics

[Llundrub]

That was good writing Unc.    -----My take.  Tantrics are like TMers who eschew any conventional notion of path or intermediary. Thus, if you have the impulse to worship Mother Divine, you need not ask permission. They are not necessarily TMers, but TMers can be tantrics.  The basic notion underlying tantra is that there are mechanical processes such as the kriyas, darshanas, and such that can work to bring people automatically to experience of the divine, or which can bring anyone to at least purification of their elements. Belief is not necessary, and so as such the experiences naturally follow the techniques.    Therefore you find tantrics in every walk of life.  Because even jail birds and garbage men can be practitioners.  So how are they going to express the divine?  As they themselves are.  Therefore tantrics tend to blow conventions because they superceed them. If you have a superlative level of awareness as opposed to the local priest then will you genuflect to him and carry the local torch, or will you show your own valuation of the universal divinity? Maybe by shitting on the altar?    Tantra is a fast path because there aren't so much in the way of preliminaries.  While the path may be graduated, it still is fast. Because it's fast one also can get stuck on whatever impurities they have because sometimes the path is too fast.  It's said that once a tantric it's  like a snake crawling up through a cane. One can't turn around. This of course is twilight language for kundalini entering avaduti or central channel.  Once kundalini is awakened it cannot be put back to sleep. The only way to rest after that awakening is in identity with the universal as the body of the divinity.  One cannot ever go back to just being Joe Blow on skid row.   Therefore as with the very cheapest things in life like sex, lsd, and tantra, what seems the cheapest is really the most life changing in the long run. Tthe real soource of tantra is not soome teacher but life itself and the elements themselves.  Life itself and the elements themselves, ie., everything is already totally sentient, and so by merely opening to that one becomes sentient as well.  many cannot simply open, so a crowbar is needed. The crowbar shouldn't be seen as the sentient ground of awareness.      To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.