So that's it. I didn't see it at first -- Hugo is a creationist. No sense dealing with him from now on.
Ugh. Edg --- In [email protected], "Hugo" <fintlewoodle...@...> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > Awesome to think about. But where are they? > > They are probably busy not existing. Consider the fact > that there is only complex life on Earth because DNA isn't > perfect at it's job, if it didn't make a few teeny mistakes > every time it made a copy of itself the complications that > compounded to make all life we see today wouldn't have > happened, it would still be bacteria at most floating about > in the primordial sea. > > That's one fluke but consider also the many different types > of complex life that *could* have developed a self aware > consciousness but didn't. How many millions of generations > went by before the particular events that forced us into > the state we are happened? If consciousness like ours is a > given whenever you have life why did it wait so long and > to be the only one on Earth so far? If we disappeared is > there any other animal that looks like it might follow in > our footsteps and develop an advanced culture? They all > seem happy scratching their arses and eating each other. > To evolve complex behaviour requires a pressure from the > environment, what happened to us that could happen to > something else and have the same effect? > > Another big problem with the 'where is everybody?' idea > is that without a long carboniferous period we wouldn't > have had the energy to create our civilisation and probably > wouldn't have had the time to do all the required science. > How many other potential life harbouring planets have a > huge supply of free energy lying around like the Earth does? > > Just a few of the variables you have to toy with when > considering life on other planets but if Earth is anything > to go by you need a *lot* of coincedences for life like > us to get going and even more for us to be self aware so > how can anyone claim it's likely to have happened twice > just because there are rather a lot of planets on which > it could have happened. > > I doubt we are alone as far as life - as in microbes and > moss - are concerned but something we could talk to is > going to be a hell of a lot rarer. It happened once here, > once in 4 billion years. And it rather goes without saying > that it needn't have, it took a very particular set of > circumstances to a very particular type of animal. The > odds *against* life like us must be absolutely astronomical. > > And it has to be said it is *very* quiet out there. > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h76JFOuCpXI&NR=1 > > >
